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  • @assassin_aragorn
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    11 year ago

    They made no inroads after Hilary vs Trump. They aren’t going to see any better opportunity for national legitimacy, and it wasn’t enough to make a significant difference. If they want to succeed, they have to start local.

    • @aidanM
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      01 year ago

      The Reform party had national legitimacy in the 90s, but not much because they didn’t win the presidential elections. Then they dissolved.

      • @assassin_aragorn
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        21 year ago

        They need to play the long game. Even if by some miracle they won the presidency, they would have no senators or house representatives. Democrats and Republicans would likely not cooperate. It would be ironic. Greens aren’t willing to form a coalition with Democrats despite having so many commonalities, but they’d need to convince Democrats to do so with them if they didn’t want to instantly be a lame duck president.

        • @aidanM
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          -21 year ago

          What you do is veto and pass executive orders to show your dissatisfaction with current congress and hope this gets you enough publicity to win seats in midterms.

          • @assassin_aragorn
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            1 year ago

            When has that ever worked? Republicans cannot be shamed into doing the right thing. We have seen this consistently time and time again. You could probably make some inroads with Democrats though.

            Nonetheless, that shouldn’t be the goal. The goal should be taking the presidency, the Senate, and the House. At the very least, if you’re capable of winning the presidency, your party should be able to take a good number of seats in Congress if you have people running. Maximizing that number will make the presidency more successful, and that will require people running for those positions in every state, and most importantly, the support of the third party in cultivating those candidates.

            • @aidanM
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              01 year ago

              What? I never said shaming into doing the right thing, I said advocating an ideology and hoping others follow it

              • @assassin_aragorn
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                11 year ago

                Again, you might get some Democrats, but you aren’t going to get any Republicans. I edited my comment after you posted this I believe, but the general idea of what I’m saying is that you need as many seats in Congress as possible to have a smooth and successful presidency. The goal should not be compromise with Democrats from the outset. It should be having the presidency, House, and Senate.

                That requires the party to seriously invest in other races.

                • @aidanM
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                  -11 year ago

                  Republican voters have jumped to the Libertarian party before, same with Reform party. Generally all the bigger third parties have actually spawned from previously Republican voters.