I just feel bad for people who went in during Elon’s “good” years (heavy quotations). He’s nothing but a glorified car salesman and a verified idiot now, but for a while there, some people just wanted a more sustainable car.
Nobody follow this person’s advice. I am old, and one of the best things about life now is the freedom not to give a fuck about the dumbass judgemental thoughts of others. I do what I want regardless of what people think, and life is great.
There’s nothing wrong with or abnormal about being aware of your image or how you are perceived. Knowledge of self and self awareness and all that. Standard unavoidable reality of life.
Android is still the only player in the cellphone market if you don’t want to be treated like a brain damaged gerbil who can’t be trusted with accessing a file system.
I think your perception of last year like mine toes back several by covid effect. Other brands have had comparable electric vehicles for years now, and even then Tesla was never alone in the EV market.
Comparable? Not really. The i3, Leaf, and Bolt didn’t have the same fast charging capability or range as the Model 3, and luxury brands are out of reach for the average consumer.
The vehicles that are actually putting out comparable specs had their first model years in 2021 (Ford, VW) or 2022 (Hyundai and Kia).
Not comparable stock. Even in Q1 2022, 75% of all EV sales in the US were Teslas.
When I bought mine, I legitimately tried to get a Ford or a Volvo, but the dealerships had no stock and kept adding insane dealer fees and markups. With my used Tesla I just had to wait a week for delivery. Musk hadn’t gone fully off the deepend either yet.
Yup, got mine in 2018. He’d done shitty things by that time but wasn’t full mask off. At the time the only 2 real alternatives were the bolt and leaf. Neither had enough range for me.
But now? My next EV will not be a Tesla. I’m driving this one till the wheels fall off, but already there are better alternatives on the market. With everyone adopting NACS there’s pretty much no downside.
Not really, if you look at non-luxury EV range and fast charging speed/time, other companies have only been catching up since the 2021 model year. The Leaf and the Bolt never really measured up on that front.
That’s true, but that’s assuming everyone buying an EV considers the maximum range the only thing that matters. If I’m buying an EV it’s going to be mostly confined to my daily commute which makes range kind of irrelevant. If you have a home charger and don’t plan on taking roadtrips, range is kind of irrelevant. If you’re buying it as a second car, range is largely irrelevant. I could go on.
To me, range is definitely a factor but not the deciding factor at all. Which means Tesla would definitely not have been on my shortlist, even a couple years ago.
Sure, but in the context of the iPhone/Android analogy, we had plenty of cheap smartphones in the market as well. The cheap ones just didn’t meet the same consumer niche.
I just feel bad for people who went in during Elon’s “good” years (heavy quotations). He’s nothing but a glorified car salesman and a verified idiot now, but for a while there, some people just wanted a more sustainable car.
Yeah it was legitimately the only viable EV when I got one. I still love the car but am absolutely embarrassed by it because of that asshole.
Have you considered living your life and not worrying about what other people think?
Poorly worded on my part. I genuinely oppose everything Elon Musk stands for, so it’s more like cognitive dissonance than embarrassment.
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Nobody follow this person’s advice. I am old, and one of the best things about life now is the freedom not to give a fuck about the dumbass judgemental thoughts of others. I do what I want regardless of what people think, and life is great.
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Well the cool thing for me is that I can continue to not give a fuck about your dumbass opinions too.
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There’s nothing wrong with or abnormal about being aware of your image or how you are perceived. Knowledge of self and self awareness and all that. Standard unavoidable reality of life.
Didn’t say there was?
That’s like saying you are embarrassed by an Android phone
Android was never the only player in the cell phone OS market. Tesla was the only player in the EV market until last year more or less
Android is still the only player in the cellphone market if you don’t want to be treated like a brain damaged gerbil who can’t be trusted with accessing a file system.
I think your perception of last year like mine toes back several by covid effect. Other brands have had comparable electric vehicles for years now, and even then Tesla was never alone in the EV market.
Comparable? Not really. The i3, Leaf, and Bolt didn’t have the same fast charging capability or range as the Model 3, and luxury brands are out of reach for the average consumer.
The vehicles that are actually putting out comparable specs had their first model years in 2021 (Ford, VW) or 2022 (Hyundai and Kia).
Not comparable stock. Even in Q1 2022, 75% of all EV sales in the US were Teslas.
When I bought mine, I legitimately tried to get a Ford or a Volvo, but the dealerships had no stock and kept adding insane dealer fees and markups. With my used Tesla I just had to wait a week for delivery. Musk hadn’t gone fully off the deepend either yet.
Yup, got mine in 2018. He’d done shitty things by that time but wasn’t full mask off. At the time the only 2 real alternatives were the bolt and leaf. Neither had enough range for me.
But now? My next EV will not be a Tesla. I’m driving this one till the wheels fall off, but already there are better alternatives on the market. With everyone adopting NACS there’s pretty much no downside.
Last year? Dude there have been viable alternatives for years now.
Tesla has definitely invested more heavily in infrastructure (mostly charging network) then any other manufacturer producing electric cars in the US.
Not really, if you look at non-luxury EV range and fast charging speed/time, other companies have only been catching up since the 2021 model year. The Leaf and the Bolt never really measured up on that front.
That’s true, but that’s assuming everyone buying an EV considers the maximum range the only thing that matters. If I’m buying an EV it’s going to be mostly confined to my daily commute which makes range kind of irrelevant. If you have a home charger and don’t plan on taking roadtrips, range is kind of irrelevant. If you’re buying it as a second car, range is largely irrelevant. I could go on.
To me, range is definitely a factor but not the deciding factor at all. Which means Tesla would definitely not have been on my shortlist, even a couple years ago.
Sure, but in the context of the iPhone/Android analogy, we had plenty of cheap smartphones in the market as well. The cheap ones just didn’t meet the same consumer niche.
Yes I agree. It’s unfortunate he decided to become the face and wallet of the right.
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It was easy enough to excuse early on. There were signs of his terribleness but they weren’t much worse than other cat manufacturers.
Now? Fuck him. I’m never sending musk another dime if I can avoid it.
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Ok fair enough.
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