"Why have we gotten to the point where we have permitted militaries of various states to use civilian commercial data centers for their military purposes?"
You do realize just how interconnected the world’s gotten, right? Most trade happens over telecommunications, nobody sends written letters or telegrams anymore and even phone calls are digital now. If you live far enough away from food production, you may in fact starve since until the barter economy gets efficient enough, nobody’s going to be bringing it to the grocery store near you… And you might not even own any physical goods valuable enough to trade for food.
I’m 51, kiddo. I grew up using cash and writing checks. And that world is gone.
If you kill all the datacenters, all those neat little cards in your pocket cease to function. And going to the bank won’t get you any money because they can’t interconnect anymore. Going to the grocery store and gas station will soon dry up even if you have cash because they can’t coordinate deliveries anymore.
Oh please, fuck off. Wealth inequality kills far more, and all of those are problems, but internet disappearing (i.e. datacenters going away) would kill billions within weeks. Some people would survive, but it would be several orders of magnitude worse than any disaster that came before.
People are fucking ignorant and talking out their ass.
Yeah, and who do you think is more contributing to climate change?
Your privilege is showing. I honestly don’t care anymore. Any action that can threaten the status quo always has some shit coming out of the wood work claiming that more people are helped by the status quo than are being hurt. Don’t care anymore. I’ve heard every permutation of this discussion by now.
You gotta eat, yeah? Those neat little cards on your pocket don’t work anymore. Go to the bank for cash? No can do, banks no longer interconnected. Doesn’t matter, nobody can get deliveries anymore. Most telephone infrastructure is now gone, so good luck finding a land line.
I forgot the world never actually existed before 1950 and just magically sprung into existence. I somehow missed that 100% of the worlds data centers are located in Russia.
If data centers go down, where else are sad little people going to argue about pointless shit?
I somehow missed that 100% of the worlds data centers are located in Russia.
Yes. Go back and read the conversation and you can see what context you apparently missed, because you’re having a completely different conversation.
I forgot the world never actually existed before 1950
You are a complete fucking fool if you don’t undertand that the world has changed and that the wy things worked is not how they work anymore. But join the rest of the fools who don’t seem to understand that.
The article is about the Russian strikes and possibly of more happening in warring areas.
Since not all data centers are in war areas, then it’s unlikely for them all to go down. If 95% of the Internet goes down. Life will still go on. Majority of data centers are just data wearhouses. If my data, (bank account, information, etc) is gone so is the billionaires. This excludes anything hard copy or physically in hand.
Hospitals will go back to paper charting. Something that already happens during planned and unplanned downtime. People will buy things in person with… Cash after being paid in…cash. Again not that “…all data centers…” as you put it would be gone.
Did you know there are still countries that don’t 100% rely on the internet. Shocking, I know.
By the way you have some boot on your tongue. You should get that looked at. You can reply with whatever. I won’t be reading the words of someone defending data centers, anymore.
Does this include my self-hosting rig?
are you a datacenter, have massive buildings with alot of ai chips/servers, then no.
No, but if all datacenters ceased to exist, 95%+ of the internet would literally be gone. Including lemmy, for example.
At this point I’m OK with that.
you say that like it’s a bad thing?
Fucking idiots. Society would LITERALLY fucking collapse and you would fucking starve to death.
how old are you? do you remember life before the internet? lol.
You do realize just how interconnected the world’s gotten, right? Most trade happens over telecommunications, nobody sends written letters or telegrams anymore and even phone calls are digital now. If you live far enough away from food production, you may in fact starve since until the barter economy gets efficient enough, nobody’s going to be bringing it to the grocery store near you… And you might not even own any physical goods valuable enough to trade for food.
neat.
Huh. Cool.
I’m 51, kiddo. I grew up using cash and writing checks. And that world is gone.
If you kill all the datacenters, all those neat little cards in your pocket cease to function. And going to the bank won’t get you any money because they can’t interconnect anymore. Going to the grocery store and gas station will soon dry up even if you have cash because they can’t coordinate deliveries anymore.
This gets better and better.
That’s already happening from the endless CO2 use.
Oh please, fuck off. Wealth inequality kills far more, and all of those are problems, but internet disappearing (i.e. datacenters going away) would kill billions within weeks. Some people would survive, but it would be several orders of magnitude worse than any disaster that came before.
People are fucking ignorant and talking out their ass.
Yeah, and who do you think is more contributing to climate change?
Your privilege is showing. I honestly don’t care anymore. Any action that can threaten the status quo always has some shit coming out of the wood work claiming that more people are helped by the status quo than are being hurt. Don’t care anymore. I’ve heard every permutation of this discussion by now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wR7GqLQgmm8
What you are talking about is a wildly fucking different conversation, so fuck off then.
Oh no, I guess we’ll just read books and do more outdoor activities.
You gotta eat, yeah? Those neat little cards on your pocket don’t work anymore. Go to the bank for cash? No can do, banks no longer interconnected. Doesn’t matter, nobody can get deliveries anymore. Most telephone infrastructure is now gone, so good luck finding a land line.
Fucking learn how the world actually works.
I forgot the world never actually existed before 1950 and just magically sprung into existence. I somehow missed that 100% of the worlds data centers are located in Russia.
If data centers go down, where else are sad little people going to argue about pointless shit?
Yes. Go back and read the conversation and you can see what context you apparently missed, because you’re having a completely different conversation.
You are a complete fucking fool if you don’t undertand that the world has changed and that the wy things worked is not how they work anymore. But join the rest of the fools who don’t seem to understand that.
You said “…all data centers…”
The article is about the Russian strikes and possibly of more happening in warring areas.
Since not all data centers are in war areas, then it’s unlikely for them all to go down. If 95% of the Internet goes down. Life will still go on. Majority of data centers are just data wearhouses. If my data, (bank account, information, etc) is gone so is the billionaires. This excludes anything hard copy or physically in hand.
Hospitals will go back to paper charting. Something that already happens during planned and unplanned downtime. People will buy things in person with… Cash after being paid in…cash. Again not that “…all data centers…” as you put it would be gone.
Did you know there are still countries that don’t 100% rely on the internet. Shocking, I know.
By the way you have some boot on your tongue. You should get that looked at. You can reply with whatever. I won’t be reading the words of someone defending data centers, anymore.
Neat