Right so do you see how people that don’t have The Correct Opinion would view this as toxic.
I get it. We all hate the right here. You don’t need to lecture me on that. My point is that toxicity mostly emerges from people hating people that don’t have identical opinions as them. Slightly to the right = nazi. Slightly to the left = tankie.
There are a wide range of conservative opinions that I don’t find problematic. Certainly some are but same can be said for any party. I’m not an “enlightened centrist” guy, certainly the American Republicans/Maga are fucking awful. But that is just one manifestation of a range of policies.
If you can’t differentiate someone that is simply conservative vs someone who is full throated MAGA then that’s more of a political literacy issue YOU have. Someone isn’t evil simply for wanting reduced taxes or less immigration or reduced “sexual positivity”. There are ethical forms of these policies.
And because it’s mandatory on a forum based platform - no, I’m not conservative. Im further left than most of you. I’m just also less emotionally charged.
Hmmm you might be an otter after all… in which case you’re a liar, and not to be trusted. And therefore not an otter, because we are honorable and trustworthy. Which means you’re not a liar after all.
You can agree 99.98% with the hivemind, but then be only a lesser form of vegetarian eater but not fully vegan and…
OFF WITH THEIR HEAD
I used to be more leftist than I am now actually - discourse with leftist trolls has made me realize that much of the rhetoric is childish thinking (not all - I suspect there’s far more to my journey, but some of the talking points definitely are).
A lot of people treat leftist beliefs like rightist ones, where the goal seems to be to become holier than thou and look down upon anyone who has not read the latest in an absolutely endless array of books.
Yeah, it’s really discouraging. We could do so many great things if we could work together. That’s why they want us all fighting amongst ourselves. I’d be totally open to tankies if they were open to “liberals” (anyone who doesn’t believe murder solves everything).
Ah but then they wouldn’t be “tankies” - that term basically (even if not technically) meaning those who deny the reality of events such as the Tiannamen Square Massacre, instead preferring “alternative facts” like how poor Russia was “forced” into invading Ukraine - won’t someone think of the poor genocidal nations of the earth, who just want the freedom to be left in peace, in order to murder everyone when they feel like it! You all are such big meanie weanie-faces, not acknowledging the superiority of North Korea!? Why, if you would just read this book… (10 pages later) then you would willingly guillotine yourself, for the glory of mudder Russia the whole world!
Maybe I’ll switch to become MAGA, just out of spite?
That makes an echo chamber. I care more about people’s ability to have adult conversations than I do about their specific politics, but it seems like that criteria eliminates the overwhelming majority of modern conservatives from consideration.
If you’re not into leftist politics, I don’t really want you on fedi to begin with.
Right so do you see how people that don’t have The Correct Opinion would view this as toxic.
I get it. We all hate the right here. You don’t need to lecture me on that. My point is that toxicity mostly emerges from people hating people that don’t have identical opinions as them. Slightly to the right = nazi. Slightly to the left = tankie.
Just chill my guy
You wouldn’t understand. You’re not an otter.
You really otter try to find some common ground, guy.
People are downvoting you but fwiw I think it was an ok joke
There are a wide range of conservative opinions that I don’t find problematic. Certainly some are but same can be said for any party. I’m not an “enlightened centrist” guy, certainly the American Republicans/Maga are fucking awful. But that is just one manifestation of a range of policies.
If you can’t differentiate someone that is simply conservative vs someone who is full throated MAGA then that’s more of a political literacy issue YOU have. Someone isn’t evil simply for wanting reduced taxes or less immigration or reduced “sexual positivity”. There are ethical forms of these policies.
And because it’s mandatory on a forum based platform - no, I’m not conservative. Im further left than most of you. I’m just also less emotionally charged.
Hmmm you might be an otter after all… in which case you’re a liar, and not to be trusted. And therefore not an otter, because we are honorable and trustworthy. Which means you’re not a liar after all.
The Left always eats its own.
You can agree 99.98% with the hivemind, but then be only a lesser form of vegetarian eater but not fully vegan and…
OFF WITH THEIR HEAD
I used to be more leftist than I am now actually - discourse with leftist trolls has made me realize that much of the rhetoric is childish thinking (not all - I suspect there’s far more to my journey, but some of the talking points definitely are).
A lot of people treat leftist beliefs like rightist ones, where the goal seems to be to become holier than thou and look down upon anyone who has not read the latest in an absolutely endless array of books.
Yeah, it’s really discouraging. We could do so many great things if we could work together. That’s why they want us all fighting amongst ourselves. I’d be totally open to tankies if they were open to “liberals” (anyone who doesn’t believe murder solves everything).
Ah but then they wouldn’t be “tankies” - that term basically (even if not technically) meaning those who deny the reality of events such as the Tiannamen Square Massacre, instead preferring “alternative facts” like how poor Russia was “forced” into invading Ukraine - won’t someone think of the poor genocidal nations of the earth, who just want the freedom to be left in peace, in order to murder everyone when they feel like it! You all are such big meanie weanie-faces, not acknowledging the superiority of North Korea!? Why, if you would just read this book… (10 pages later) then you would willingly guillotine yourself, for the glory of
mudder Russiathe whole world!Maybe I’ll switch to become MAGA, just out of spite?
(we Arch users use /s-udo btw)
LOL exactly. Remember when the Red Scare podcast was “lefty”?
GuyDudeman really understands you:-).
That makes an echo chamber. I care more about people’s ability to have adult conversations than I do about their specific politics, but it seems like that criteria eliminates the overwhelming majority of modern conservatives from consideration.
Tankies can fuck off too, for the record. (He says, on a platform created by tankies)
One of the reasons I switched to piefed.
As long as they don’t help Nazis into power I don’t care too much.