He. Tried. To. Kill. You.

  • @panchzila
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    1 year ago

    Many laws are based on practical reasons. Forbidding a criminal to run for president is one. Or will you be ok if for example Putin ran for the american presidency letting the people decide?

    • @DarthBueller
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      21 year ago

      I’d say that choosing a foreign-born person as your example is inaccurate because the US Constitution requires the President to be born on US soil. But seeing that the last time the Republicans put forward a foreign-born US national as a presidential contender, everyone glossed over the issue, and only ivory-tower types wondered about the Constitutional issue (e.g., who even has standing, as the concept is currently understood, to enforce the provision?) perhaps your hypothetical is right on point.

    • @[email protected]
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      11 year ago

      I’m fine with reasonable limits on who can run. I don’t agree with letting politicians freely decide who can run by passing laws.

      • @Cabrio
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        21 year ago

        Representatives. They speak for you because your population elected them to represent you, don’t like your politicians and their decisions then look inwards.

        • @[email protected]
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          11 year ago

          We need strong constraints for what laws politicians can pass. As a principle, I don’t think politicians should get to decide who can run against them or who can vote for them.

          If you like your politicians: I would suggest you should look inwards.

          • @Cabrio
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            21 year ago

            Stop voting against your interests.

              • @Cabrio
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                21 year ago

                Two party system, gerrymandering, first past the post, no preferential voting. These are all systems used to rig your elections that you and your countrymen voted for.

                You voted and got the representatives that represent the will of the people, and the will of the American people either wants these things or is uneducated as to why they shouldn’t want these things, but again, all are result of the choices of the people of your country.

                Americans act like their voting is disenfranchised, yeah it is, because you chose to disenfranchise it.

                • @[email protected]
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                  11 year ago

                  I didn’t vote for any of this. No one alive did. The system is rigged and deeply entrenched.

                  Americans act like their voting is disenfranchised, because it is - not much of a choice available to be made.

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                    What are you talking about? Society is a work in progress not a “it wasn’t my choice” situation. You get handed what you get handed and you fix it or fuck it while you’ve got it before you hand it to the next generation. You are not unique, every society is the same.

                    Americans have gotten exactly what they chose, and they chose to vote for representatives from amongst themselves to remove their own ability to choose effectively and/or maintain the grift.

                    Why haven’t you voted for representatives that want to remove these systems? Because people that want to remove these systems don’t represent the majority of your population so those choices don’t exist. Simple as that.

                    Want politicians and representatives that represent your interests? Well if there isn’t one, someone has to become one, which means you either choose to step up and represent your ideals yourself and represent other people like you by actively engaging in the system, or you don’t, and you sit down and take a big ol’ chug from that oversized mug of shut the fuck up, because in a democracy your vote is your only voice and the American people sold theirs to grifters for a broken promise.

                    Capitalism at it’s finest.

    • @chakan2
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      -21 year ago

      For us to call ourselves a free nation, you have to allow someone deplorable a full and fair election…it fucking sucks, but that’s a cornerstone of the foundation of democracy and freedom.