Just following on from this: https://lemmy.nz/post/1134134
Ex-Tesla employee reveals shocking details on worker conditions: ‘You get fired on the spot.’
I’m curious about how far this goes.
You can’t get fired on the spot in NZ, unless you like, shot someone or set the building on fire or something really bad.
But it seems that in the US, there’s little to no protections for employees when their bosses are dickheads?
Also, any personal stories of getting fired on the spot?
Ok, companies choosing to not be shit isn’t a protection. They could change their minds and be shit tomorrow.
Or they get bought by a larger, more shit company, who changes company culture.
Hell, they don’t even have to be bought. The original owner could just die and his replacement might just be terrible.
The replacement might be terrible but they’re still enforced to treat people with the legal requirement for working standards (and yes there are protection laws, but it’s the big businesses that disobey them). You’ll be hard pressed to find complaints about working conditions in, say, the Wegmans chain.
You can sue a company if it’s small enough to not be controlling. Their treatment of you will be enforced against. A large company, however, will have richer lawyers and thus more power, plus the power to bribe.
What the actual fuck are you talking about? Sue? For what? There are no laws about firing you. I once got laid off for absolutely no reason other than them restructuring and eliminating my position, along with many others to be more profitable. I got a pathetic (at least in my opinion) severance and was out looking for work with zero warning. That’s what this guy is asking about.
You can’t sue for being laid off/or fired. You can collect unemployment. You can sue for harassment, or being fired for retaliation or some specific other things. It’s going to be a uphill battle every time even in those instances though.
If it’s for discriminatory reasons, yes, you can.
Yes, that would fall into the “specific other things” I mentioned. A very small amount of the time you can sue for being fired for super fucked up reasons. Companies can just fire you for no reason whenever they want.
I was trying to imply it’s high risk to do that. Suppose you have someone of a racial minority and for the first few days there is ambiguity over whether the new employee is welcome. Then on day eight, they do something, get fired, don’t understand what just happened, then there can be someone to look into if it was covert discrimination. Then something like finding out all the people who were fired randomly just happened to be of one or more certain minorities, and poof, a legally enforced shadow of suspicion has been cast. GoodWill comes to mind here.