All enjoyable things are “unnecessary”, including visiting the lake for relaxation. The reasonable way to handle it is to designate days where jetskis, ATVs, etc. can be used and have the people enjoying the quiet on other days. Saying other peoples hobbies should be completely banned cause they slightly inconvenience your hobby is the asshole behavior here IMO.
Being at a lake or mountain where that pollution is in the case we are discussing is a hobby. This is not a residential area. Also, the pollution from a jetski is not gonna kill you.
You clearly don’t understand how pollution kills people. You don’t simply suffocate on dirty air or get your brain melted by the noise. Pollution causes stress. People often leave polluted, urban environment to escape pollution and relax. Now you’re arguing that people should also be allowed to pollute the outdoors because it’s hard for them to “have fun” without making noise and creating exhaust fumes. I disagree.
And they can’t escape it on a day that’s not reserved for jetskis? Or go elswehere on that day? They are also trying to relax in a way suited to them. You are really just trying to sling nonesense and make it stick. No, there is no objective reason why everything has to be reserved for your prefered type of relaxation all the time.
Yes, arguing for less pollution is clearly nonsense. What we need is more noise and more smog in the environment. Let’s drop some gasoline in the streams and oil in the lakes as well, why not? God forbid we infringe on people’s sacred right to destroy the environment. How else are they going to have fun?
The device you are typing these comments on causes pollution. The internet you send them over causes pollution. The lemmy servers that distribute them cause pollution. Probably a hundred things around you caused pollution to manufacture. Either go live in a cave or stop being a hypocrite about how only the entertainment you enjoy is allowed to pollute.
Yes, we either have to live in a cave or let everyone pollute as much as they like. Why do we even have vehicle emissions standards and noise ordinances? So hypocritical.
Are we talking about what emission standards should be for jetskis? What the fuck are you on about? I never said there shouldn’t be emission standards. I am saying you don’t get to decide how people are allowed to enjoy their free time or force everyone to enjoy a public lake only the way you want them to.
All enjoyable things are “unnecessary”, including visiting the lake for relaxation. The reasonable way to handle it is to designate days where jetskis, ATVs, etc. can be used and have the people enjoying the quiet on other days. Saying other peoples hobbies should be completely banned cause they slightly inconvenience your hobby is the asshole behavior here IMO.
Not being exposed to pollution is not a hobby, it’s a necessity. Air and noise pollution kills millions each year. Look it up.
Being at a lake or mountain where that pollution is in the case we are discussing is a hobby. This is not a residential area. Also, the pollution from a jetski is not gonna kill you.
You clearly don’t understand how pollution kills people. You don’t simply suffocate on dirty air or get your brain melted by the noise. Pollution causes stress. People often leave polluted, urban environment to escape pollution and relax. Now you’re arguing that people should also be allowed to pollute the outdoors because it’s hard for them to “have fun” without making noise and creating exhaust fumes. I disagree.
And they can’t escape it on a day that’s not reserved for jetskis? Or go elswehere on that day? They are also trying to relax in a way suited to them. You are really just trying to sling nonesense and make it stick. No, there is no objective reason why everything has to be reserved for your prefered type of relaxation all the time.
Yes, arguing for less pollution is clearly nonsense. What we need is more noise and more smog in the environment. Let’s drop some gasoline in the streams and oil in the lakes as well, why not? God forbid we infringe on people’s sacred right to destroy the environment. How else are they going to have fun?
The device you are typing these comments on causes pollution. The internet you send them over causes pollution. The lemmy servers that distribute them cause pollution. Probably a hundred things around you caused pollution to manufacture. Either go live in a cave or stop being a hypocrite about how only the entertainment you enjoy is allowed to pollute.
Yes, we either have to live in a cave or let everyone pollute as much as they like. Why do we even have vehicle emissions standards and noise ordinances? So hypocritical.
Are we talking about what emission standards should be for jetskis? What the fuck are you on about? I never said there shouldn’t be emission standards. I am saying you don’t get to decide how people are allowed to enjoy their free time or force everyone to enjoy a public lake only the way you want them to.