Well, we can agree to disagree. I think “X bill failed because these specific senators voted against it” will be much more effective for getting an even larger majority in 2028 than “X bill failed because Trump vetoed”.
Their ‘No’ votes in the House and Senate will still be on record in either case so we can still bring that up come 2028.
So Trump, the figurehead of the Republicans whether in office or out, can try to field the blame but the rest of the party still looks bad since the ‘No’ votes go on record as well. Especially so if Democrats attempt to overturn any of the vetoes directly as they can point to both Trump and the Republicans in Congress as the hold-up.
Sounds like a whole if wishful thinking and all downside. Ending the filibuster now is madness. We can talk in 2029. But now is just dulling your blade before you have the opportunity to use it.
I disagree that it would be madness especially given Democrats are coming in with such a sizable lead where it could be used. Imo they can use it in 2027 and in 2029.
Playing it too safe and visibly accomplishing nothing for two years has a real chance of stopping the wave which I think is a valid concern given how 2024 went.
Well, I think it is 100% certain the democrats will not get rid of the filibuster before 2029. So we will see if that works out for them!
Honestly, I’d be shocked if they did it in 2029 as well. Just because of the massive backfire risk. But I am also hopeful they will have 60 senators and can actually pass things without needing to do that.
Well, we can agree to disagree. I think “X bill failed because these specific senators voted against it” will be much more effective for getting an even larger majority in 2028 than “X bill failed because Trump vetoed”.
Their ‘No’ votes in the House and Senate will still be on record in either case so we can still bring that up come 2028.
So Trump, the figurehead of the Republicans whether in office or out, can try to field the blame but the rest of the party still looks bad since the ‘No’ votes go on record as well. Especially so if Democrats attempt to overturn any of the vetoes directly as they can point to both Trump and the Republicans in Congress as the hold-up.
Sounds like a whole if wishful thinking and all downside. Ending the filibuster now is madness. We can talk in 2029. But now is just dulling your blade before you have the opportunity to use it.
I disagree that it would be madness especially given Democrats are coming in with such a sizable lead where it could be used. Imo they can use it in 2027 and in 2029.
Playing it too safe and visibly accomplishing nothing for two years has a real chance of stopping the wave which I think is a valid concern given how 2024 went.
Well, I think it is 100% certain the democrats will not get rid of the filibuster before 2029. So we will see if that works out for them!
Honestly, I’d be shocked if they did it in 2029 as well. Just because of the massive backfire risk. But I am also hopeful they will have 60 senators and can actually pass things without needing to do that.