Good, then we have a better foundation to continue on.
I’d be interested to hear you on two hypotheticals, if you don’t mind:
Let’s say that somehow the conflict suddenly changed, and it became clear Russia would eventually lose, the question was whether they would defend every meter of land until defeat, or if they would acknowledge defeat and withdraw, would that change your opinion? Let’s say for the sake of argument that their eventual defeat was fully assured.
Let’s say that Russia starts stating that the Russian minorities of the Baltic countries are having their rights violated (and let’s say the Baltics disagreed). Would it make sense for the Baltics to see this as a prelude to an invasion similar to the situation in Ukraine?
You’re now being a debatepervert and going on about “what ifs?” You’re arguing like Ben Shapiro LMAO
Why don’t you just bother college students at this point? You’re not being honest, you’ve done this before, you’re going to keep this up until eventually you see something that sticks out and only focus on that, completely ignoring all the stacked up valid points made against you hitherto that moment.
And you still refuse to answer if the Ukrainian symbols are fascist or not!!
To the first question I have no idea, since there’s so many things that would have to change there’s no way to know what the circumstances would be. What would make the conflict “suddenly change” in such a fashion that Russia is absolutely defeated, yet not to such an extent that there is any territorial change, nor to such an extent that Russia in any way loses its fighting power nor its cohesion? How would defeat be absolutely certain? Why? Why are the russians continuing to fight?
To the second, then that again depends. Is there a large minority in these countries? Is it being genocided? Has Russia attempted any diplomatic solutions - Like signing treaties? Are these treaties being breached?
What about the governments of these Baltic countries? Have they recently been couped by the US and they are now threatening that they will join NATO? (in this scenario by the way we are pretending the current governments of the baltics are neutral to pro-russian, the Budapest memorandum also covers them and part of the agreement between the late government of the USSR and the US/NATO about the dissolution of the USSR was that NATO would never expand further east, certainly not all the way up to the baltics)
If that’s the case then I would say “yes” in the sense that it would be about as reasonable for the US to assume there would be a war with Iran because they’re planning on starting a war with Iran.
If that’s not the case, then I would have to ask more questions to understand why this was occurring, since it seems quite unlikely to just happen out of the blue.
edit I forgot to add: All that is kind of just nothing. What if it was, what if it wasn’t, what if the world was made of pudding?
The actual reality isn’t that one, it’s not even close. And at this point we are so far removed from “If you think the war should go on, then I think you should go volunteer instead of forcing children into nazi torture dungeons”
Good, then we have a better foundation to continue on.
I’d be interested to hear you on two hypotheticals, if you don’t mind:
You’re now being a debatepervert and going on about “what ifs?” You’re arguing like Ben Shapiro LMAO
Why don’t you just bother college students at this point? You’re not being honest, you’ve done this before, you’re going to keep this up until eventually you see something that sticks out and only focus on that, completely ignoring all the stacked up valid points made against you hitherto that moment.
And you still refuse to answer if the Ukrainian symbols are fascist or not!!
To the first question I have no idea, since there’s so many things that would have to change there’s no way to know what the circumstances would be. What would make the conflict “suddenly change” in such a fashion that Russia is absolutely defeated, yet not to such an extent that there is any territorial change, nor to such an extent that Russia in any way loses its fighting power nor its cohesion? How would defeat be absolutely certain? Why? Why are the russians continuing to fight?
To the second, then that again depends. Is there a large minority in these countries? Is it being genocided? Has Russia attempted any diplomatic solutions - Like signing treaties? Are these treaties being breached?
What about the governments of these Baltic countries? Have they recently been couped by the US and they are now threatening that they will join NATO? (in this scenario by the way we are pretending the current governments of the baltics are neutral to pro-russian, the Budapest memorandum also covers them and part of the agreement between the late government of the USSR and the US/NATO about the dissolution of the USSR was that NATO would never expand further east, certainly not all the way up to the baltics)
If that’s the case then I would say “yes” in the sense that it would be about as reasonable for the US to assume there would be a war with Iran because they’re planning on starting a war with Iran.
If that’s not the case, then I would have to ask more questions to understand why this was occurring, since it seems quite unlikely to just happen out of the blue.
edit I forgot to add: All that is kind of just nothing. What if it was, what if it wasn’t, what if the world was made of pudding?
The actual reality isn’t that one, it’s not even close. And at this point we are so far removed from “If you think the war should go on, then I think you should go volunteer instead of forcing children into nazi torture dungeons”