Voting for Bernie doesn’t make you not able to be a Hilary apologist. She ran a shit campaign and she lost. I voted for her, doesn’t make me blind to the reality.
Actually it does. Because I never apologize for Hillary. That was just a straw man. A baseless accusation that you made. Because you don’t have anything to actually rebut what I said. I absolutely blame Debbie Wasserman Schultz. And believe that Clinton constantly made optically bad moves throughout the campaign. Especially letting her join after what she did.
Sanders was never really running to actually be president. He was running as a change candidate. To push Democrats towards the center. Which he succeeded at spectacularly. It’s the reason he’s still in the party. He just did much better than he ever thought he would do. If you actually knew anything about him. You’d understand all this. Or at least be curious to understand why he’s stayed with the party even after they supposedly did him so wrong. Did you ever wonder while being so outraged for him why he wasn’t equally outraged as you? No you never asked yourself that question did you.
I’m definitely not a fan of the DNC overall. I think they choose not to fight when they should. Don’t spend time supporting or bringing up good new candidates through the ranks. And also supporting poor candidates out of institutional momentum. But realistically outside of Wasserman Schultz actions which are on her. The DNC didn’t really do anything unexpected, surprising, or out of the ordinary. As a party they’re allowed to have favorites. And if you don’t like that well then we should push to change the DNC and their rules. But Bernie knew what he was going into. Maybe you should take a cue from him.
“And this just shows how easy it is to manipulate Democrats” your first sentence in your first reply clearly infers Democrats were manipulated and that’s why she lost. Fuck right off kthx.
That’s literally your own projection. All I commented on was how easily you are being manipulated still. You’ve made every argument against things that I haven’t said. But not made a single argument against things I have said. Any of us are susceptible to misinformation and being misled. Which you clearly are. That was my point and you have made it for me over and over better than I ever could have on my own.
As to why Hillary lost. People can and have written whole papers on the subject. People like yourself spreading disinformation definitely did a lot to discourage people. Or drive them away. But is that really your ego speaking there that you think you are all that important? You are all just cogs among cogs. And not even very big cogs at that. Probably the single biggest factor that led to Hillary’s failure was Electoral College followed by 30 years of propaganda among Republican fascist circles. And yet you bear some personal feelings of guilt and resentment for for your participation. But an unwillingness to let go of things that put you in that position.
Don’t think that I don’t find ironic humor at the fact that you’re accusing a socialist of being a Hillary apologist though lol.
LOL I voted for Bernie in the last two primaries. Thank you for proving my point. Programmed and wound so tight you can’t even help yourself.
Voting for Bernie doesn’t make you not able to be a Hilary apologist. She ran a shit campaign and she lost. I voted for her, doesn’t make me blind to the reality.
Actually it does. Because I never apologize for Hillary. That was just a straw man. A baseless accusation that you made. Because you don’t have anything to actually rebut what I said. I absolutely blame Debbie Wasserman Schultz. And believe that Clinton constantly made optically bad moves throughout the campaign. Especially letting her join after what she did.
Sanders was never really running to actually be president. He was running as a change candidate. To push Democrats towards the center. Which he succeeded at spectacularly. It’s the reason he’s still in the party. He just did much better than he ever thought he would do. If you actually knew anything about him. You’d understand all this. Or at least be curious to understand why he’s stayed with the party even after they supposedly did him so wrong. Did you ever wonder while being so outraged for him why he wasn’t equally outraged as you? No you never asked yourself that question did you.
I’m definitely not a fan of the DNC overall. I think they choose not to fight when they should. Don’t spend time supporting or bringing up good new candidates through the ranks. And also supporting poor candidates out of institutional momentum. But realistically outside of Wasserman Schultz actions which are on her. The DNC didn’t really do anything unexpected, surprising, or out of the ordinary. As a party they’re allowed to have favorites. And if you don’t like that well then we should push to change the DNC and their rules. But Bernie knew what he was going into. Maybe you should take a cue from him.
Cool, keep going around and making excuses for why Hilary lost. That’s not being a Hilary apologist though got it.
LOL I have yet to put forth a single excuse as to why she lost. But you go ahead and keep proving me right.
“And this just shows how easy it is to manipulate Democrats” your first sentence in your first reply clearly infers Democrats were manipulated and that’s why she lost. Fuck right off kthx.
That’s literally your own projection. All I commented on was how easily you are being manipulated still. You’ve made every argument against things that I haven’t said. But not made a single argument against things I have said. Any of us are susceptible to misinformation and being misled. Which you clearly are. That was my point and you have made it for me over and over better than I ever could have on my own.
As to why Hillary lost. People can and have written whole papers on the subject. People like yourself spreading disinformation definitely did a lot to discourage people. Or drive them away. But is that really your ego speaking there that you think you are all that important? You are all just cogs among cogs. And not even very big cogs at that. Probably the single biggest factor that led to Hillary’s failure was Electoral College followed by 30 years of propaganda among Republican fascist circles. And yet you bear some personal feelings of guilt and resentment for for your participation. But an unwillingness to let go of things that put you in that position.
Don’t think that I don’t find ironic humor at the fact that you’re accusing a socialist of being a Hillary apologist though lol.