Got cheap, no-name, unbranded LED bulbs off of eBay. Years later, not one of them had broken.
But Philips LED bulbs? Those things don’t last a year. In fact, none of the high-rated, “high quality,” top-ten-list, LED light bulbs have ever outlasted an incandescent in my experience.
If you want your LEDs to last, buy the no-name bulbs, guys. The Phoebus Cartel is still out there.
I will say in regards to LEDs, it’s a bit of a tricky thing. Philips in general are terrible, I don’t know what they do, but they’re also really pretty. Amazing for rarely-active mood lighting. For actual lighting, I use the white-tone-changeable Ikea bulbs, and they seem to last forever, hot as they get.
That’s the weirdest thing: The Ikeas run hotter than the Philips, yet still last longer. I really get the feel that Philips optimizes purely for color, smoothness and softness. They know what people use their overly expensive stuff for since in some areas they got little competition. It’s annoying, but for those purposes it also works really well.
I love that man, his brain and how he probes any subject matter which comes across his party.
The way my head absorbed what you said was:
Phillips is the Apple of the LEDs. If you want something longer lasting, stick with the “ol reliable” brand such had to innovate to sell cheaper.
I wonder if people have done experiments…
I will say that maybe Philips’ regular LED bulbs are bad, but I have Hue bulbs I’ve been using since 2015 without issues still. They’ve been extremely reliable.
Do not remember the video but isn’t that the whole problem: LEDs like to be cooler. Bright pretty LEDs get hoter. People buy smaller prettier bulbs.
Things have a tradeoff independent of price. A small bright LED that is in an enclosed space will not last long. Recommend buying pretty LEDs and using them without enclosure or buying dimmable and setting them to 50% on default.
Oh. Huh. Gotta say, I wasn’t expecting to encounter anyone who had good experience with those bulbs.
That… blows a hole in my theory.
I still don’t regret the cheap, foreign light bulbs I got off of eBay (best LEDs I’ve bought thus far)… but maybe my family and I have just been unlucky with name brand LEDs.
If you’re using the power switch on the wall to turn on and off your hue bulbs they will die ultra quick. Use Zigbee to turn them on and off and they will last a LONG time. I buried my wall switches with blank plates when I set up my system.
Oh, gotcha. Yeah I had a free home inspection for heating and cooling efficiency and the guy gave me a bunch of LEDs that he had to give to the old boomers still running incandescent. I don’t think any of them lasted longer than a year. I stopped using Hue whites in lieu of Zwave wall switches so I don’t have to worry about either anymore thankfully.
I haven’t had any problem either, even in enclosed fixtures that the bulbs I have aren’t rated for. There are so many different models I don’t know if you can totally generalize by brand. And I don’t use anything higher than 60 watt equivalent. There is such a thing as too bright.
Got cheap, no-name, unbranded LED bulbs off of eBay. Years later, not one of them had broken.
But Philips LED bulbs? Those things don’t last a year. In fact, none of the high-rated, “high quality,” top-ten-list, LED light bulbs have ever outlasted an incandescent in my experience.
If you want your LEDs to last, buy the no-name bulbs, guys. The Phoebus Cartel is still out there.
Boy do I have a video for you. It’s regarding the cartel and light bulb engineering if you’d be interested:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zb7Bs98KmnY
Monopolies are scary though, especially if they can make such collective actions without telling anyone.
Oi that’s my boy Technology Connections!
He’s on Mastodon, btw
Unsurprising tbh
Ha, I was about to dig out that video.
I will say in regards to LEDs, it’s a bit of a tricky thing. Philips in general are terrible, I don’t know what they do, but they’re also really pretty. Amazing for rarely-active mood lighting. For actual lighting, I use the white-tone-changeable Ikea bulbs, and they seem to last forever, hot as they get.
That’s the weirdest thing: The Ikeas run hotter than the Philips, yet still last longer. I really get the feel that Philips optimizes purely for color, smoothness and softness. They know what people use their overly expensive stuff for since in some areas they got little competition. It’s annoying, but for those purposes it also works really well.
I love that man, his brain and how he probes any subject matter which comes across his party.
The way my head absorbed what you said was: Phillips is the Apple of the LEDs. If you want something longer lasting, stick with the “ol reliable” brand such had to innovate to sell cheaper. I wonder if people have done experiments…
I will say that maybe Philips’ regular LED bulbs are bad, but I have Hue bulbs I’ve been using since 2015 without issues still. They’ve been extremely reliable.
Do not remember the video but isn’t that the whole problem: LEDs like to be cooler. Bright pretty LEDs get hoter. People buy smaller prettier bulbs. Things have a tradeoff independent of price. A small bright LED that is in an enclosed space will not last long. Recommend buying pretty LEDs and using them without enclosure or buying dimmable and setting them to 50% on default.
And not buying the integrated shit.
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Oh. Huh. Gotta say, I wasn’t expecting to encounter anyone who had good experience with those bulbs.
That… blows a hole in my theory.
I still don’t regret the cheap, foreign light bulbs I got off of eBay (best LEDs I’ve bought thus far)… but maybe my family and I have just been unlucky with name brand LEDs.
If you’re using the power switch on the wall to turn on and off your hue bulbs they will die ultra quick. Use Zigbee to turn them on and off and they will last a LONG time. I buried my wall switches with blank plates when I set up my system.
I don’t think they were hue bulbs. I think they were just regular LED light fixture bulbs.
Oh, gotcha. Yeah I had a free home inspection for heating and cooling efficiency and the guy gave me a bunch of LEDs that he had to give to the old boomers still running incandescent. I don’t think any of them lasted longer than a year. I stopped using Hue whites in lieu of Zwave wall switches so I don’t have to worry about either anymore thankfully.
I haven’t had any problem either, even in enclosed fixtures that the bulbs I have aren’t rated for. There are so many different models I don’t know if you can totally generalize by brand. And I don’t use anything higher than 60 watt equivalent. There is such a thing as too bright.
I have Philips hue leds in daily use that are actually 6 years old.