you still need to for lack of better word force people to partake in mutual aid? Right?
What makes you say this? You think, despite tens of thousands of years of evidence that humans work best as a cohesive unit, and naturally tend to do this, that humans can’t work together?
I’ve known a lot of criminals/thieves and people that ruin people’s lives on purpose. They don’t budge for anything. The type of people that would kick the shit out of you because you accidentally made the wrong face or smiled wrong. I’ve seen people fuck up lives just for their own entertainment. Its really made me question life and society.
Yes, I also question society, and that is what I’m getting at. The society we have built actively encourages behaviour like this - we’re built around a zero sum game theory of success, where one person’s loss is another’s gain. Hyper individualistic ideology has eroded communities into pure atomised subjects with no connection to each other. We are taught and forced to only think of only ourselves, better only ourselves, further only our own careers, because any moment you take to help someone else, they are somehow “leeching” off of you. And, in a sense, they are, because of how we have set our society, economy, and political systems up. Those moments you take to help other people are moments you could be making money for yourself, or learning something for your own self improvement… And in a real sense could hurt you.
Brain dead take lmao you think anarchic monkeys in the jungle don’t have hierarchy?
My dude
They are monkeys
We have a bit more intelligence and organisational skill than wild animals
So you’re saying that, with our intelligence, we can organize ourselves better than animals and not fall into… anarchy?
If we organised ourselves properly, that would be anarchy. “Fall into anarchy” suggests you believe anarchy means chaos and disorder. It doesn’t.
You obviously have not read Kropotkin’s Mutual aid.
But you still need to for lack of better word force people to partake in mutual aid? Right? That’s what I don’t understand about these discussions.
I tend to think more about chaos and war. Like chaos and war seems to be what life is regardless of any active governments.
What makes you say this? You think, despite tens of thousands of years of evidence that humans work best as a cohesive unit, and naturally tend to do this, that humans can’t work together?
I’ve known a lot of criminals/thieves and people that ruin people’s lives on purpose. They don’t budge for anything. The type of people that would kick the shit out of you because you accidentally made the wrong face or smiled wrong. I’ve seen people fuck up lives just for their own entertainment. Its really made me question life and society.
Yes, I also question society, and that is what I’m getting at. The society we have built actively encourages behaviour like this - we’re built around a zero sum game theory of success, where one person’s loss is another’s gain. Hyper individualistic ideology has eroded communities into pure atomised subjects with no connection to each other. We are taught and forced to only think of only ourselves, better only ourselves, further only our own careers, because any moment you take to help someone else, they are somehow “leeching” off of you. And, in a sense, they are, because of how we have set our society, economy, and political systems up. Those moments you take to help other people are moments you could be making money for yourself, or learning something for your own self improvement… And in a real sense could hurt you.
Agreed!