an activist who is considered an eco-terrorist by the french state uses protonmail without any precautions and it’s proton’s fault that he left traces?
Wooooah. No I just meant Proton charges a lot and offers sales and coupons that in fine print are not really great deals. I think Proton is a secure service, it’s just little annoyances I have with their aggressive af monetization.
This has been argued over for a long time now. They routinely fight against orders from foreign governments (foreign to Switzerland). When one case comes along and the Swiss government actually says they need the information, and the courts say Proton has to abide, they finally do. This somehow negates every other time the government has come knocking and been told to fuck off? They tried, the courts said they had to do it, so they did. If they didn’t, the service would be gone now.
Hence my question :) If there are investors waiting for returns, you bet (and, like, actually, you do in fact bet) they will get more expensive. If it’s a social enterprise, I wouldn’t worry as much.
Proton is no hero.
Edit: Because of their aggressive monetization, not a bad product I just susoect it will keep getting more expensive.
an activist who is considered an eco-terrorist by the french state uses protonmail without any precautions and it’s proton’s fault that he left traces?
Wooooah. No I just meant Proton charges a lot and offers sales and coupons that in fine print are not really great deals. I think Proton is a secure service, it’s just little annoyances I have with their aggressive af monetization.
Why?
I think prolly because of this https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/business/protonmail-scandal-tarnishes-swiss-privacy-reputation-/46952640
They don’t store IP addresses by default but when required to by law, they don’t have a choice just like any other company would.
Bad OPSEC by the activist, Protons hands were tied
They actually also have an onion service: https://proton.me/tor
They should probably use the
Onion-Locationextension http header though, imo.When I accessed their front page through tor,it did not auto-redirect to onion >.<, even though I have that setting enabled.
This has been argued over for a long time now. They routinely fight against orders from foreign governments (foreign to Switzerland). When one case comes along and the Swiss government actually says they need the information, and the courts say Proton has to abide, they finally do. This somehow negates every other time the government has come knocking and been told to fuck off? They tried, the courts said they had to do it, so they did. If they didn’t, the service would be gone now.
Hence my question :) If there are investors waiting for returns, you bet (and, like, actually, you do in fact bet) they will get more expensive. If it’s a social enterprise, I wouldn’t worry as much.