I wonder if this is why I’ll see a post has a larger comment count than the comments I can read, too.
If you’ve blocked someone, that person’s comments and all comments replying to theirs are hidden from your view. This is my only guess why you might be seeing this. The comment count you see on your instance should be accurate, since it only counts comments it knows about and it doesn’t know about defederated ones.
This is something that I consistently see that people still haven’t gotten used to with Lemmy and other federated sites. People often complain about what they see on their feed or sometimes attack an OP for reposting. I assume people just aren’t thinking about it since we’re all still used to Reddit and using a centralized platform where everyone can see the same stuff. But with Lemmy, it seems that people forget that their feed will be completely different, based on which instance they are in.
Is startreck.website federated with hexbear? When sh.itjust.workes got federated by hexbear a few days ago, about a third of all was tankie memes and discussion from hexbear. They mostly stayed to their communities, but sometimes I would come across comments on memes from .ml.
No a third of posts were people complaining they saw someone that might have been a tankie and demanding to live in a neo lib echochamber, I barely saw any actual tankie talking points
I’d estimate maybe 10% of posts were responding to the 35% of posts. But that’s just rough estimates. The tankie taking points were in the comments, the memes were often just saying America bad in different ways.
I have seen my fair share of tankies here, so there definitely is a presence of them here. But I also do think a lot of the complaints come from people who assume any leftist user or post is also a “tankie.”
Like I do see a lot of leftist memes posted to [email protected], which might be where a lot of the complaints are coming from. Likewise there has been a lot of drama with hexbear federating with a lot of communities that were previously shielded from them.
I think a lot of people don’t realize that the .ml in lemmygrad.ml and lemmy.ml stands for “Marxist Leninist”. They actually ARE Communist instances so their anti-capitalist stuff is perfectly fine in their instances and communities. If you don’t want to see their stuff then block it, otherwise some of us occasionally find it funny and / or thought provoking.
I’ve never seen them be “thought provoking”, which is what I would have expected. Instead they just whine about “libs” and recommended you go read some novel from 1890 while giving exactly zero reason for you to be interested.
I’m interested in hearing different points of view. Hexbear wasn’t that. It was 2015 r/the_donald style propaganda.
I’m actually surprised at how devoid of substance they were. I expected more.
It’s nice that the “all” list has vastly improved in quality in a day.
I’m talking about hexbear as tankie specifically. I haven’t really seen any reasonable leftists on that instance. They use lib as an insult to give an idea.
I only came across tankies. I couldn’t find anyone in the few days we were federated who would condemn Russia’s invasion or China’s treatment of the Uyghurs. Maybe they’re on there, but I didn’t find any.
There was a wave of tankie on Reddit and here during the reddexit. It was like, “where the fuck did stalin/mao/pol pot loving, atrocity denying weirdos come from en masse?” But you’re right the shock was bigger than the phenomenon.
Hehehe, thank you. EDIT: I didn’t realize that Pol Pot’s atrocities in trying to convert Cambodia into an agrarian communist paradise were not the right kind of atrocities for standard tankies.
Leftists or tankies? I’m talking about those that pretend Stalin and Mao didn’t murder millions of people in pursuit of their communist state, while creating a corrupt one party government of haves. There’s a difference between leftists and tankies.
It doesn’t help that the tankies are trying to push the idea that “Tankie is a slur against all communists/leftists!” The word “tankie” was invented by communists as an insult against those specific “communists” the cheer on brutal oppression of civilians – particularly when those civilians are communists themselves.
The irony is tankies hate the “wrong kind of leftist” just as much as their other ideological enemies.
I’ve known many tankies (myself included) and I’ve never met a single one that thought it was a slur, but ok. Those civilians were fascists uprising BTW.
Yes, the famous “fascist uprisings” where students demanded things like a return to democracy with free elections, putting local communist politicians in power in the interim, end of occupation by a foreign power or state military, end to media censorship and oppression of dissidents, and the return to local rule.
Those are the things tankies defend. They self identify as communist, because anyone can call themself a communist. Tankies are the “communists” that blindly celebrate the instances of failure and oppression instead of denouncing or learning from them – that is what separates a tankie from normal, sane communists.
I think that sort of speaks to how toxic and horrible they can be when you do encounter them. I don’t see their posts often but when you do, it’s a omg kill it with fire moment. Makes you want to just shut it all down and go touch some grass.
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it might be your instance not being fed’d with them
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If you’ve blocked someone, that person’s comments and all comments replying to theirs are hidden from your view. This is my only guess why you might be seeing this. The comment count you see on your instance should be accurate, since it only counts comments it knows about and it doesn’t know about defederated ones.
No it’s mostly people going nuts over little to nothing.
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Depending on the instance you are on and the blocks you have set up, your feed can be very full of the stuff
This is something that I consistently see that people still haven’t gotten used to with Lemmy and other federated sites. People often complain about what they see on their feed or sometimes attack an OP for reposting. I assume people just aren’t thinking about it since we’re all still used to Reddit and using a centralized platform where everyone can see the same stuff. But with Lemmy, it seems that people forget that their feed will be completely different, based on which instance they are in.
Is startreck.website federated with hexbear? When sh.itjust.workes got federated by hexbear a few days ago, about a third of all was tankie memes and discussion from hexbear. They mostly stayed to their communities, but sometimes I would come across comments on memes from .ml.
No a third of posts were people complaining they saw someone that might have been a tankie and demanding to live in a neo lib echochamber, I barely saw any actual tankie talking points
I’d estimate maybe 10% of posts were responding to the 35% of posts. But that’s just rough estimates. The tankie taking points were in the comments, the memes were often just saying America bad in different ways.
Oh, I guess if you count any criticism of America to automatically make somthing tankie then I guess maybe
Tankies really are just stupid and can’t read, huh?
and I had to block all those hexbear communities, cuz suddenly they flooded my feed
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Still shitty that everyone else also has to see and block that stuff… It surely doesn’t make an instance inviting for new users.
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I have seen my fair share of tankies here, so there definitely is a presence of them here. But I also do think a lot of the complaints come from people who assume any leftist user or post is also a “tankie.”
Like I do see a lot of leftist memes posted to [email protected], which might be where a lot of the complaints are coming from. Likewise there has been a lot of drama with hexbear federating with a lot of communities that were previously shielded from them.
I think a lot of people don’t realize that the .ml in lemmygrad.ml and lemmy.ml stands for “Marxist Leninist”. They actually ARE Communist instances so their anti-capitalist stuff is perfectly fine in their instances and communities. If you don’t want to see their stuff then block it, otherwise some of us occasionally find it funny and / or thought provoking.
(this was a joke, ml stands for
malaysiaMali).Mali.
Thanks. I knew it was one of those countries with M and L in the name, in that order.
I’ve never seen them be “thought provoking”, which is what I would have expected. Instead they just whine about “libs” and recommended you go read some novel from 1890 while giving exactly zero reason for you to be interested.
I’m interested in hearing different points of view. Hexbear wasn’t that. It was 2015 r/the_donald style propaganda.
I’m actually surprised at how devoid of substance they were. I expected more.
It’s nice that the “all” list has vastly improved in quality in a day.
That’s a pretty lib response imo.
I’m talking about hexbear as tankie specifically. I haven’t really seen any reasonable leftists on that instance. They use lib as an insult to give an idea.
So the instance that has anarchists and syndicalists on it (as well as, MLists, MSMists, and Stalinists, and more) are all tankies?
I only came across tankies. I couldn’t find anyone in the few days we were federated who would condemn Russia’s invasion or China’s treatment of the Uyghurs. Maybe they’re on there, but I didn’t find any.
There was a wave of tankie on Reddit and here during the reddexit. It was like, “where the fuck did stalin/mao/pol pot loving, atrocity denying weirdos come from en masse?” But you’re right the shock was bigger than the phenomenon.
The commies were here first—we created Lemmy, lol
Big difference between being a commie and being an atrocity-denying commie that has no sense of historical perspective.
I challenge you to find a single person anywhere on Lemmygrad or Hexbear who expressed a favorable opinion of Pol Pot.
Hehehe, thank you. EDIT: I didn’t realize that Pol Pot’s atrocities in trying to convert Cambodia into an agrarian communist paradise were not the right kind of atrocities for standard tankies.
This could be a moment for you to realize you don’t know what leftists actually believe, but I’m getting the sense you won’t.
Leftists or tankies? I’m talking about those that pretend Stalin and Mao didn’t murder millions of people in pursuit of their communist state, while creating a corrupt one party government of haves. There’s a difference between leftists and tankies.
Case in point, lol.
Thank you for your service; now move along.
Smh more settler colonialism
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Wtf, lmao. The only people calling pol pot communist are liberals.
No one called them communist here, they are just calling out people who are apologists for genocide.
TIL Marxist-Leninists (which Pol Pot was) are not communist.
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It doesn’t help that the tankies are trying to push the idea that “Tankie is a slur against all communists/leftists!” The word “tankie” was invented by communists as an insult against those specific “communists” the cheer on brutal oppression of civilians – particularly when those civilians are communists themselves.
The irony is tankies hate the “wrong kind of leftist” just as much as their other ideological enemies.
I’ve known many tankies (myself included) and I’ve never met a single one that thought it was a slur, but ok. Those civilians were fascists uprising BTW.
Yes, the famous “fascist uprisings” where students demanded things like a return to democracy with free elections, putting local communist politicians in power in the interim, end of occupation by a foreign power or state military, end to media censorship and oppression of dissidents, and the return to local rule.
Yep, all of those revolutions were clearly the work of fascists.
Those are the things tankies defend. They self identify as communist, because anyone can call themself a communist. Tankies are the “communists” that blindly celebrate the instances of failure and oppression instead of denouncing or learning from them – that is what separates a tankie from normal, sane communists.
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I think that sort of speaks to how toxic and horrible they can be when you do encounter them. I don’t see their posts often but when you do, it’s a omg kill it with fire moment. Makes you want to just shut it all down and go touch some grass.
I don’t even know what a tankie is
Tankies are communist state sympathizers.
They aren’t just communists, they will actively defend China and the Soviet Union.
If you were to go to China and find a bunch of guys wearing MAGA hats, that would be their version of a Tankie
Got a follow up, possibly dumb question, Is “Tankie” a reference to that famous tiananmen square photo with the tank?
I assume so? I avoid tankies and I’ve never asked.
I say this as an extreme socialist, tankies are a problem.
Are you complaining about not seeing racism and genocide denial?
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Like most hexbear users denying the ongoing genocide of Uyghers.