Leaker yeux1122 says that Apple Store staff have been told to make sure iPhone 15 buyers know about the change...

Leaker yeux1122 says that Apple Store staff have been told to make sure iPhone 15 buyers know about the change…

  • @Earthwormjim91English
    13•1 year ago

    Micro usb fucking sucked. Being a standard doesn’t mean shit when the standard is shit.

    • @stonedemomanEnglish
      3•1 year ago

      What the fuck are you talking about? Lightning cable specs were identical to micro USB.

      • @Earthwormjim91English
        6•1 year ago

        Other than, you know, the connector. The thing most people care about. Most USB-C cables today are usb 2.0 still anyway so they have the same spec as Lightning.

        Micro usb was non reversible, the little pins broke all the fuckin time so the cable wouldn’t stay in the port, and the connector would damage the port itself so you’d just be fucked.

        Lightning was miles ahead of that. It was reversible so it literally didn’t matter how you put it in. There were no fragile little pins to hold it in so it lasted a lot longer, and since the internal pins in the port were all on the sides of the port it was a lot harder to damage the port itself. If the cable got damaged you could just replace it without worrying about the port.

        Lightning was better than micro and mini usb in pretty much every way.

        • lemmyvoreEnglish
          8•1 year ago

          There were no fragile little pins to hold it in so it lasted a lot longer

          …except Apple made the housing and cable super fragile so they’d sell more “certified” cables. Phew, dodged a bullet there. Any excuse Apple ever made about Lightning falls on its face when you figure out how two-faced they are.

          Sad thing is that I actually liked Lightning cables, a lot, but I liked them when they were made by decent manufacturers with braided cord and a sturdy connector.

        • @stonedemomanEnglish
          5•1 year ago

          Lightning cables are notorious for breaking. https://you-well.co.uk/why-apple-cables-break-so-easily-what-to-do/

          So what is there left to say about it…that you don’t have to look at the port before plugging a lightning cable in? Is that your justification for saying the USB standard sucked?

          Most USB-C cables today are usb 2.0 still anyway so they have the same spec as Lightning.

          Modern PCs have 3.0 ports. Androids have 3.0 ports. 3.0 cables are available at any online store. What the actual fuck are you talking about?

            • @stonedemomanEnglish
              5•1 year ago

              It sources literally 17K comments on the Apple forums complaining about connectors breaking.

          • @Earthwormjim91English
            -5•1 year ago

            You’re the first person I’ve ever heard defend micro usb lol. So congratulations there.

            Yes Apple branded lightning cables break pretty easily. Not the fucking port in the phone though. Way to ignore that.

            “Android” isn’t a single maker. Sure galaxies and pixels are USB3.0 or 3.1. The vast majority of cheapo Android phones use 2.0.

            • @stonedemomanEnglish
              8•1 year ago

              Not the fucking port in the phone though. Way to ignore that.

              I’m skeptical that this happens anywhere remotely near frequently enough to condemn the entire technology. Never seen it, and never heard about it until just now.

              “Android” isn’t a single maker. Sure galaxies and pixels are USB3.0 or 3.1. The vast majority of cheapo Android phones use 2.0.

              I would love for you to find a single noteworthy android manufacturer that is not in this list. *Edited because this link was not working correctly on desktop site

              • @[email protected]English
                -4•1 year ago

                I’m skeptical that this happens anywhere remotely near frequently enough to condemn the entire technology. Never seen it, and never heard about it until just now.

                I have three kids. I have had to buy parts off of eBay and replace the ports on both of my PS4 controllers. They see way, way less use than any of the kids iPhones, or mine or my wife’s. I have a Kindle that has to be propped “just-so” to charge.

                I really don’t give much a shit if everyone in this thread hates apple, but micro-usb is a fucking garbage connector that frankly, USB-C shares too much in common with. If you stepped on a lightning cable that was in a device, you probably need a new cable. If stepped on a micro-usb, you probably need a new device and new cable. USB-C, you need a new cable and you might need a new device (see also, me figuring out how to fix the kids oculus this week.)

                • @stonedemomanEnglish
                  4•1 year ago

                  Speculative claims and vitriolic anecdotes are not convincing. There are other factors here that could explain these discrepancies- if they exist at all, because again this comment is so inflammatory that it reeks of personal bias, bad faith, or fabrication- such as: how kids treat gaming peripherals as opposed to phones, placement of the charging port on the device, placement of the items in your house, quality of materials in the device (remember you’re comparing phones to old, $60-$100 items), your perspective focusing more on negative experiences than positive, etc.

                  • @[email protected]English
                    0•1 year ago

                    Your comment, which I quoted in my reply, is itself a speculative and anecdotal piece of data. My “vitriolic” anecdote is literally just an anecdote, which is in no way vitriolic. My “inflammatory” comments? Can we not say fuck on the internet anymore?

                    I also work in IT supporting various tablets. Have to go back a little bit before USB C was gaining traction, but We mostly use iPads (like 4-5x more iPads) but used Fire tablets with micro USB. The iPads get used like iPads, the Fire tablets were mostly stationary. Since like 2015 when we adopted iPads, I’ve never had to replace due to a failed port. We stopped buying Fire tablets because I had to replace about 1/3 of them due to failure of the port in around 2 years of service vs 8 years on the iPads with no failures.

                    Granted, this sample size here is only like 50 devices in total so I’m sure it’s just more “vitriolic” anecdata.

                    your perspective focusing more on negative experiences than positive, etc.

                    Good point. On the positive side, I’ve never seen a Lightning port fail in my family, my extended family, or from any of my friends, or in my job. Another positive is micro USB is almost dead and replaced by much less trash connectors. Golly gee don’t tell micro USB all the micro USB stans (which I guess have shown up exclusively for this thread) I said that, would hate to offend. Of all of the things I’ve ever said on the internet, boy did I not expect calling micro-usb garbage to be controversial.

              • @Earthwormjim91English
                -4•1 year ago

                You do know that the connector is separate from the protocol right?

                The galaxy S23 ultra comes with a usb 2.0 type c cable in the box.

                If you want a 3.2 cable with 45W charging you have to buy it separately.

    • @AuxEnglish
      2•1 year ago

      Nah, they didn’t suck.