Tyson Foods and the federal government refuse to show their math for a new sustainability label.

  • @[email protected]
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    The ethical problem is weighing a happy life cut short vs no life at all. There’s no mathematical solution.

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      • @Bolt
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        As much as I’m generally on your side, that’s not honestly answering the premise, which is that those chickens do live a happy live.

        I personally don’t seek so-called ethical meat because every example I’ve looked into has been a lie, and if it does exist it’s not worth my time to comb through supply lines in search for a product whose origin I would always worry about, and that I can do perfectly well without.

      • Chaotic Entropy
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        I just can’t help but dismiss out of hand these sorts of melodramatic comments that aim for maximum angst while stating nothing of value.

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      • @SCB
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        This kind of edgy comment has no place in real discussion, because of you were serious about it, you wouldn’t be able to post it because you’d be dead.

        Your comment demeans and trivializes suicidal ideation.

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          • @SCB
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            I am a survivor of suicide, which is why I take this kind of tripe seriously.

            Throwing doubts about how serious people are about suicide is important. Wanting to kill yourself is a sign of an illness, not a position one reasons themselves into.

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              • @SCB
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                If it gives you peace, I am happy for that. I hope we can agree to disagree and see that we both have positive intent.

      • @afraid_of_zombies
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        So why would anyone listen to you about how to live it, especially ethically? No, really I am asking. I don’t want someone in my government heading up an agency that they don’t think should exist, or someone at my job who doesn’t want to work there, or date someone who doesn’t want to be with me.

        If you don’t want to exist that is your baggage but for those of us who do why would we trust you to tell us how to exist?

        Ethics is for us humans to figure out how to have a good life with other people also having one. It isn’t for serving some abstract concept. When you start the Peter Singer games you turn it from a practical art to worship of some secular idol.

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          • @afraid_of_zombies
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            If ethics as a concept has the job of focusing solely on humans having a good life then it’s a failure.

            Citation needed.