• @Buffalox
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      201 year ago

      This, it’s the only thing that really counts, we all need to pull together, the only way to do that, is to vote in politicians that actually give a shit.

      • @Slowy
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        -101 year ago

        Do any really, though?

        • @Buffalox
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          161 year ago

          Oh boy not the false equivalence again. If you don’t give a shit yourself then don’t vote.

          It makes a difference who gets the power, and your main influence is your power to vote.

          • @Slowy
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            1 year ago

            I always do vote for the party with most proactive views on climate change.

            I just feel really jaded that they are going to make much of a difference, short term capitalistic gains seem more important to all

            Edit - I’m also beginning to feel that voting isn’t my most powerful move. Disruptive protests are looking better and better.

            • @[email protected]
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              71 year ago

              Voting is the absolute smallest political action anyone could ever take. Protest always has been and always will be more effective at moving the needle. Above all else these ghouls want to preserve capitalism. If it looks like the only way they preserve capitalism in the near term is capitulating to the demands of environmentalists then that is what will happen. Of course in the long term capitalists will attempt to erode these gains just like they have done with social safety nets in various countries for largely the same reasons (increased rate of profit).

            • @[email protected]
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              31 year ago

              You’re right, voting isn’t the most powerful thing you can do.

              It’s getting involved in politics altogether, getting more people to vote.

              And not “We got the president and maybe a senator” vote. The crowd that’s fighting climate change every step of the way has infested all the way down to the local levels making it harder to vote on the national platforms. I’d say this is a US thing, but if there’s voting, they seem to be infesting all of it.

            • @Buffalox
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              11 year ago

              It may not be the most powerful for all, but for most it is.

              Just don’t go along with something like Just Stop Oil, that’s not constructive or helpful in any way, and it’s off-putting for the vast majority tiring people of the issue, rather than waking their interest.

        • vrojak
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          141 year ago

          Yes, some that really give a shit might not be a part of a major party in whatever country you live in, but even among established parties there are people who are more inclined to do something about the climate catastrophe than others.