• @maniclucky
    9•9 months ago

    You’re partially correct. There are plenty of people for whom it is difficult but not impossible. The finances often seem more insurmountable than they are (said as someone who’s purchased two houses before I was 30. I’m very lucky).

    That said, being poor is expensive (See: Vimes’ Boots Theory of Socioeconomic Unfairness). Hard to put up a down payment when you can barely afford to eat, which is a reality for a lot of people. One setback (like your shitty car finally giving up) will lock you in wherever you are more often than not. And even for the more fortunate, things like what you just mentioned become a serious reality. It’s all well and good to point at affordable homes in the country, but that 4/5 of the population you mentioned has a habit also being the kind that “don’t like your kind around here” on the subject of the gays (said as a gay man who grew up in such places). Be happy that you only have such a consideration as an annoyance, not something that could kill you. I am not being hyperbolic.

    The argument “just move” is often made from a privileged position. Doesn’t make anyone a bad person to not have experienced such hardship, but it does tend to point to a person not realizing the enormity of the task they are glibly asserting as an option. For the people that have, it comes across as arrogant and blind (not necessarily that you are that).

    • @SaakoPaahtaa
      -8•9 months ago

      Thanks for the level-headed response my dude.

      I am completely aware that nothing is more expensive than being poor. But if I can nitpick just a bit, I would never have my day-to-day life be reliant on a car. I personally don’t own a car because I don’t want to be reliant on it, it costs like a bag of cocks and car-brainism is a disease. I just walk from place to place, it’s cheap as shit and keeps you in shape. And yes, I’ve also lived in the sticks, and yes, I still walked. But on that note yeah, something like an accident that leaves you immobilized for a while or something is quite destructive financially. Though, I’d call that more of an outlier than myself.

      And yeah I’m white straight cis myself, the country fellas would prolly like me tbh, and am not really in touch with the realities of the yeehaw-lifestyle. I find it difficult to believe some folk actually care about anyone’s sexuality, but I doubt I’m alone on that. It’s not really an experience I’d feel comfortable commenting further on so I’ll take an L on that, but there must be cheap places to live in the US that don’t necessarily involve being hunted down for your lifestyle preferences.

      • @maniclucky
        5•9 months ago

        Happy you’re willing to listen.

        I’d assert that you’re the outlier on that one, but am willing to agree to disagree. US infrastructure passionately hates foot traffic most places. This assumes you are in the US, so it may be a bit apples and oranges there.

        I’ve found most people really don’t care, or don’t care enough to be violent assholes about it. But the ones that do care have a tendency to be dangerous. And in isolated places like small towns, it’s real easy to follow the herd on things like that if you don’t personally know someone who’s gay. The issue there is more that you can’t really tell that about a place easily when you’re looking so it’s a bit Russian roulette.

        Side note, without judgement: I wouldn’t recommend referring to being LGBT+ as a ‘lifestyle preference’. It implies that it’s a choice, which has been a sticking point for a long time. No one chooses to be an oppressed minority.

        • @SaakoPaahtaa
          -7•9 months ago

          US infrastructure passionately hates foot traffic most places.

          Sure, if you live in a literal gridmap (of which I’ve seen pics and yeah nah, pass) but even googling “US suburban hellscape” brings multiple pictures of suburbia with alright sidewalks. And I live in the main car-brain purgatory of my country which actively and purposefully fucks over pedestrians but it’s still fine, feet don’t need all that much to get you from place to place. Going offroad is serene when you’re unbound by the limitations of the tire.

          I’ve found most people really don’t care, or don’t care enough to be violent assholes about it.

          For sure, but it takes just one.

          I wouldn’t recommend referring to being LGBT+ as a ‘lifestyle preference’

          Thanks for the heads up mate, translated the phrase from my native language, where I think it’s fine to say, but admittedly I’m now frantically looking into is it really. I hope hatred towards anyone doesn’t seep from my comments. I only and exclusively hate on weebs, commies and furries, which are all the same people really.