Sure, for a specific group of people, the 70’s were great.
Unless you were gay, or trans, or brown, or a single woman, or a married woman who didn’t want a husband as a “head of the household” or… anything other than a married, white, Christian male with 2.5 kids.
believe it or not there were black people who were able to get work and buy homes. These things were not exclusive to white, christian, males. Im not even sure trans was on the radar at that point and yeah gay was generally closeted. The eighties though started tearing things apart although it was not really felt until the 2000’s. 70’s was the last vestigage of proper tax levels and social programs.
Intersex people are individuals born with any of several sex characteristics including chromosome patterns, gonads, or genitals that do not fit the binary. Intersex folks are not inherently trans; but many were put through gender reassignment surgery post-birth and usually without their permission, so some do in fact, feel they are trans.
Trans individuals have been a thing since humans first existed. Historical texts are littered with references, and the history of LGBTQ+ is the same group fighting for rights since forever.
Many cultures feel it is perfectly normal, and considered it expected that some people presented as different than their biological sex.
It’s completely fictional that any gender or sexual minority is new or unique in the modern era.
So then explain what you meant. Why is being trans before surgical augmentation going to be difficult, if you agree that you don’t need surgery to be trans. Make that make sense, cause it sounds like a transmedicalist shit take
But spoiler alert: transgender people, intersex, non-binary and other genders have been around probably as long as we’ve existed. As far as recorded history, I’m gonna drop a fuckton of info below if anyone is curious about human history outside the gender binary.
A few archeological finds & early historical texts:
(7,000 BCE-1700 BCE) Among the sexual depictions in Neolithic and Bronze Age drawings and figurines from the Mediterranean are, as one author describes it, a “third sex” human figure having female breasts and male genitals or without distinguishing sex characteristics. (The Archaeology of Mediterranean Prehistory by Emma Blake, A. Bernard Knapp)
(1st century) earliest mention of transgender/gender non-conforming people: Philo of Alexandria and Marcus Manilius provided descriptions of transgender people during the early Roman Empire
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the remains of a person with Klinefelter syndrome (intersex), circa 1050-1300 in Hattula, Finland
article on phys.org
Kalonymus ben Kalonymus ben Meir (1286-1328) wrote a poem lamenting being born a boy, referring to their (possibly her) genitalia as a “defect” wikipedia.org
A list of the 10 earliest recorded gender-affirming surgeries:
Karl M. Baer (1885-1956) born intersex, assigned female, came out as male in 1904; surgery in 1906
Dora Richter (1892-?) first surgery was 1922, second was 1931
Lili Elbe (1882-1931) transitioned in 1930, and was the first known recipient of a uterus transplant in attempt to achieve pregnancy; she died due to complications
Laurence Michael Dillon (1915-1962) had surgery in 1946 and was an early user of testosterone therapy, starting in 1939
Roberta Elizabeth Marshall Cowell (1918-2011) underwent gender-affirming surgery in 1948 and lived to be 93
Christine Jorgensen (1926-1989) began sex reassignment surgeries in 1952
Charlotte Frances McLeod (1925-2007) struggled with American doctors; she wanted surgery but they wanted to change her gender identity instead which sent her into a deep depression; was quoted as saying “I was miserable and I wanted to die” before moving to Denmark to have her surgeries around 1953-1954. She lived to be 82.
Rina Natan (1923-1979) earliest known individual to undergo gender-affirming surgery in Israel; it was finally granted to her in 1956, after being denied multiple times and attempting the surgery on herself
April Ashley (1935-2021) English model and activist who was outed without her consent; it’s believed her surgery occurred around 1960
Maryam Khatoon Molkara (1950-2012) first publicized Iranian citizen to receive gender-affirming surgeries (first surgery unknown; probably after 1980) In the 1980s she secured a religious decree from conservative Iran’s highest authority to officially allow reassignment surgery for herself and for other trans people in her country
Pre-Islamic Arabia (Khanith and Mukhannath; as early as the Rashidun era 632 - 661)
Cambodia, Laos and mostly Thailand (Kathoey; since at least 1296)
Albanian society, Kosovo and Montenegro (Burrnesha; documented in 1800s but can be traced back to the 1400s)
the Bugis of Sulawesi recognize five genders (Makkunrai, Oroané, Bissu, Calabai, and Calalai)
Southern Mexico/Zapotec culture (Muxe)
the Philippines (Bakla; prior to the Spanish colonial period)
Italy (Femminiello; since at least 1740/1760, see: Il femminiello, painted by Giuseppe Bonito)
Japan (in writings since at least the Edo Period)
the Diné aka. Navajo (Nádleehi)
the Zuni (Lhamana)
many various indigenous american tribes (the Two Spirited)
Igbo people of Nigeria (documented in the 15th century)
pre-colonial Inca civilization in Peru (Quariwarmi)
Native Hawaiian and Tahitian (Māhū; pre-colonial, but first published mention in 1789)
the Itelmens of Siberia (Koekchuch; first recorded in the late 18th century)
There’s so much more, but I’m tired now lol. Hopefully I made my point, which is we have a fuckton of lgbt+ history that no one knows about cause it’s not taught. It doesn’t help that the anti-lgbt+ propaganda likes to postulate that this is all some new-fangled fad, which it is clearly not. It’s our history.
Well part of your problem is your comparing a time where we barely had rights let alone a language for ourselves up against a modern trans reality. All of the gender-affirming surgeries I listed were done by adults at their own behest. Also, this is a history rundown where I mostly focused on trans individuals, not intersex individuals, BUT, historically, most exceptions to the gender binary were all thrown together into single categories back then. In hindsight, sure, a lot of these cultural third gender classifications sound confusing, inaccurate, and too broad a category for our present understanding. But they were working with what knowledge they had at the time
Well it matters to some of us, a lot actually. I spent most of my youth in self-loathing, thinking there was something wrong with me because I learned nothing in school about gender and sexuality other than the binary. The relief at not only finally understanding myself but that others have felt the same way is indescribable. LGBT+ history is human history. And when people are screaming that I shouldn’t exist and that “trans is a fad” or “a modern lifestyle choice”, well, now I have the knowledge that throughout a lot of our history many cultures realized, without the aid of science or politicians or history books or leftists, that sex and gender are not a binary.
The colors of the 70s were to hide the cigarette smoke damage.
yeah but a brief period where a high school degree was enough to buy a house and raise a family eventually.
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Future analysis will likely show that equality meant that now everyone gets treated like the people they hate.
Sure, for a specific group of people, the 70’s were great.
Unless you were gay, or trans, or brown, or a single woman, or a married woman who didn’t want a husband as a “head of the household” or… anything other than a married, white, Christian male with 2.5 kids.
What exactly do you mean by 2.5 kids??
Take three kids, chop one in half, feed it to the dinosaur garbage can. Easy peasy.
dinosaur garbage can: “It’s a living”
flintstones reference? daaaaamn 😎
Thalidomide was a hell of a drug.
believe it or not there were black people who were able to get work and buy homes. These things were not exclusive to white, christian, males. Im not even sure trans was on the radar at that point and yeah gay was generally closeted. The eighties though started tearing things apart although it was not really felt until the 2000’s. 70’s was the last vestigage of proper tax levels and social programs.
You’re “not sure trans was on the radar” because right wing media has convinced you that it’s abnormal. Trans people have been around forever.
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My guy, theres evidence of an intersex knight buried with great reverence in, I believe, Denmark, about 1000 years ago.
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Brother, their genitals
You do know what intersex is, right?
Intersex people are individuals born with any of several sex characteristics including chromosome patterns, gonads, or genitals that do not fit the binary. Intersex folks are not inherently trans; but many were put through gender reassignment surgery post-birth and usually without their permission, so some do in fact, feel they are trans.
Trans individuals have been a thing since humans first existed. Historical texts are littered with references, and the history of LGBTQ+ is the same group fighting for rights since forever.
Many cultures feel it is perfectly normal, and considered it expected that some people presented as different than their biological sex.
It’s completely fictional that any gender or sexual minority is new or unique in the modern era.
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and whataboutism rears its ugly head
uh, you don’t need surgery to be trans
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So then explain what you meant. Why is being trans before surgical augmentation going to be difficult, if you agree that you don’t need surgery to be trans. Make that make sense, cause it sounds like a transmedicalist shit take
Heres a decent timeline of trans history. If you hate wikipedia, there’s the citations at the bottom to browse through. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_transgender_history
But spoiler alert: transgender people, intersex, non-binary and other genders have been around probably as long as we’ve existed. As far as recorded history, I’m gonna drop a fuckton of info below if anyone is curious about human history outside the gender binary.
A few archeological finds & early historical texts:
A list of the 10 earliest recorded gender-affirming surgeries:
Many cultures around the world have recognized more than two genders:
There’s so much more, but I’m tired now lol. Hopefully I made my point, which is we have a fuckton of lgbt+ history that no one knows about cause it’s not taught. It doesn’t help that the anti-lgbt+ propaganda likes to postulate that this is all some new-fangled fad, which it is clearly not. It’s our history.
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Well part of your problem is your comparing a time where we barely had rights let alone a language for ourselves up against a modern trans reality. All of the gender-affirming surgeries I listed were done by adults at their own behest. Also, this is a history rundown where I mostly focused on trans individuals, not intersex individuals, BUT, historically, most exceptions to the gender binary were all thrown together into single categories back then. In hindsight, sure, a lot of these cultural third gender classifications sound confusing, inaccurate, and too broad a category for our present understanding. But they were working with what knowledge they had at the time
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Well it matters to some of us, a lot actually. I spent most of my youth in self-loathing, thinking there was something wrong with me because I learned nothing in school about gender and sexuality other than the binary. The relief at not only finally understanding myself but that others have felt the same way is indescribable. LGBT+ history is human history. And when people are screaming that I shouldn’t exist and that “trans is a fad” or “a modern lifestyle choice”, well, now I have the knowledge that throughout a lot of our history many cultures realized, without the aid of science or politicians or history books or leftists, that sex and gender are not a binary.