• @havokdj
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    11 year ago

    sideloading

    You have already shown you are brainwashed by apple. Have you ever even seen a modern android phone that costs more than $500?

    • Aatube
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      11 year ago

      Why quote sideloading?

      Lol, there are a TON. The Fairphone, pretty much every Samsung phone, Google Pixel, OnePlus 11, Motorola Razr… I could go on and on

      • @havokdj
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        21 year ago

        Because sideloading is a fake concept developed by apple because they want you to think that you can only install from the app store. It is called downloading and installing. On android, you have the benefit of multiple app stores to choose from, not just one. You can also download .apk directly and install that. With iOS you are SOL unless you have one of the few jailbreakable phones, which will fall behind on security updates and become inherently insecure.

        Every one of those phones even in their standard configuration smack iOS flagships 6 ways to Sunday. I know this because I have used both, android since 2007 and iOS since 2012 to 2020.

        Yes, it is harder to break an iOS system, but android offers infinitely more freedom, and the UI is not bad either. If you don’t like the UI, you can simply install another launcher.

        • Aatube
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          11 year ago

          I hate word choice arguments. It’s literally just a different word/phrase. It doesn’t matter as long as it’s unbiased and people know what you mean. It’s also generally better to categorize things and make a distinction and not start your argument by a personal attack.

          There’s AltStore. Granted, it’s slightly inconvenient, but as long as you have contact with your server you’ll be fine.

          While it’s not something I care about, iPhones are widely known to be significantly ahead on performance on running things. One thing I do care about is how it runs smoothly. I use some Chinese apps for reasons and all their different services clog up the background and make things laggy. This isn’t really Android’s fault, but in practice it makes Apple a better choice for my needs. It also has a great UI design across apps. Yes you can change your launcher but you can’t change the appearances of apps to be better and I haven’t found good-looking apps on par with Apple’s on Android yet. I also just like Apple Emojis, fonts and bells and whistles more. I’m curious on what advantages you’re referring to.

          Android offers more freedom, but Apple’s lack has not hindered me in doing my stuff, which is all I care about for a touch device.

          • @havokdj
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            31 year ago

            I am sorry, but altstore is trash. iOS needs more options.

            There is nothing wrong with liking what you like, it is just not fair to try and tout something as superior when they are not really comparable. Android and iOS are phones and that is where the similarities end. Using an android phone is more akin to using a portable computer (especially if you are a power user) while iOS is a simpler experience for those who don’t need all of the features you would get on android. They both do what they do really well, some of the things they do are better than the other, but neither is TRULY better than the other.

            For instance, three of the biggest things for me when it comes to android is:

            1. Alternative ROMs

            2. Filesharing

            3. Modularity

            On android, I use GrapheneOS (custom ROM) which has a level of security I absolutely need in my day to day life if I am going to be carrying around a networked computer on my person at all times. I sync certain files and folders in realtime with my Linux machines using syncthing, and I install most of my apps from fdroid, one for privacy and security reasons, but also because I love free and open source software.

            iOS can achieve things similarly, but what I don’t like is that they want you to use it within their ecosystem. For instance, file sharing on iOS to your computer is easy on MacOS, a PITA on windows, and damn near impossible on Linux unless you either use a VM or you are just accessing your pictures.

            I guess that’s the biggest thing about iOS to me is that apple wants you to be in their walled garden and ONLY in their walled garden. MacOS is not a great choice for the work that I do and as such, I stay away from having iOS as a daily driver.

            That being said, I have a friend who is an apple freak to say the least. He has a workflow that integrates perfectly with his apple devices. His m1 macbook air, his m1 Mac mini, his iPhone, his apple watch, his homepod, etc etc. He doesn’t have a technical workflow and doesn’t do anything seriously complicated or application specific, and he loves it. One joke he commonly makes is that “nothing integrates as well as apple” when it just isn’t the case.

            I can’t comment much off personal experience when it comes to the airtag system equivalent on android, but believe it or not it is actually a thing and it isn’t bad. It actually works similarly to the apple system but the only thing is, there are less android users in the US. I personally stray away from that because I do not like location services at all and go out of my way to NOT use them.

            • Aatube
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              1 year ago

              Android and iOS are phones and that is where the similarities end.

              I agree. I’m more responding to the ridiculousness of Captain’s purported shortcomings of iOS. I daily drive an Arch laptop and a WIndows PC(I also have a 2014 secondhand 128g macbook air which I never use now for obvious reasons), so I have a very odd combination that can run anything. I just like Apple’s approach better.

              It does have more options like SideStore and Sideloady, though these can’t install really large apps (which I use) for some reason

              • @havokdj
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                11 year ago

                Don’t get me wrong, iOS DOES have its shortcomings, but literally everything does, nothing is perfect and if there was a perfect system, everyone would use it (although I think we can both agree that Linux is about as perfect as an operating system can get so long as you are capable of properly tuning your system).