Taiwan is not for sale, and neither is it part of China, said Taiwan’s Foreign Affairs Ministry, in a rebuke to Elon Musk.

  • Blake [he/him]
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    “Taiwan regards itself as part of China”

    said Blursty.

    “neither is it part of China”

    said Taiwan’s Foreign Affairs Ministry

    I think what you mean is that Taiwan considers itself to be an independent state, whereas the People’s Republic of China, on the mainland, considers themselves Taiwan to be a part of their territory.

    Difficult issue to even discuss without taking sides, really!

    • wrath-sedan
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      71 year ago

      Should note that the “Taiwan is the real China” brand of politics has basically died out in Taiwan. Yes they are technically “The Republic of China” but China has said that changing that is tantamount to declaring de jure independence which would trigger a war.

      Taiwan (for the most part) just wants to be Taiwan.

      (See also why the “West Taiwan” meme is frowned upon and completely misrepresents what most Taiwanese people want.)

      • Blake [he/him]
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        TIL, thanks, I have edited my comment accordingly. I have never liked the whole “west Taiwan” thing anyways - while I disagree with a lot of what the PRC does, I think unilaterally declaring that an entire nation should be governed by a different nation is shitty, imperialist behaviour. The only time I think it’s valid is for people expressing their wishes for their own homeland, and even then it can still be imperialist.

        • @[email protected]
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          31 year ago

          Historically (pre 1949) mainland China was their own homeland. The Republican government fled to Taiwan during the Chinese Civil War. But I guess the people of Taiwan have moved past laying claim to their homeland for various reasons.

          • wrath-sedan
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            21 year ago

            There’s a lot of layers there, Han people have been settling in Taiwan since the 17th century and this originally Taiwanese-speaking group makes up about 70% of people in Taiwan. They don’t consider China their homeland anymore than Americans do the UK.

            Han people who came with the fleeing KMT government are more directly tied to China, but even they have been largely Taiwan-ized politically since the democracy and identity movements of the 1980’s. Which is to say, very very few people in Taiwan see China as a homeland these days.

    • @[email protected]
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      “neither is it part of China”

      You misunderstood. He meant the PRC by “China” in that instance. The Taiwanese rulers consider themselves to be the rightful rulers of all of China.

      • Blake [he/him]
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        91 year ago

        While that used to be the case, it is no longer true - Taiwan acknowledged the PRC as the legitimate authority over mainland China in 1991 and released their claims on the mainland.

        • @NOT_RICK
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          41 year ago

          Give them a break, they’ve only had 30 years to learn that