Hello everyone,

Recently we have been dealing with a lot of spam from the kbin.social communities. There is a bug in kbin where moderation tasks are not federated to other instances. That means even if a moderator over at kbin removes a post, it will still be visible on Lemmy instances and it’s up to the instance admins to clean it up.

There have been talks about this in the Lemmy admin channels with some instances considering defederating from kbin.social - and others who have already made that step.

We don’t want to defederate, because we know this would impact the kbin community greatly - but we have to do something. That’s why we have currently removed most of the kbin communities from Lemmy World, making them unavailable to our users. But the kbin users can still view and interact with our communities and users.

This means that those spam-accounts will stil be able to post in our communities too, but at least it makes the task of moderation already a little bit lighter on our team. But it was either this or defederation. The moderation tools on kbin are in an even worse state then Lemmy’s.

We will keep monitoring the situation and will keep you up to date should anything change.

We hope you understand and support our decision.

The Lemmy World team

  • @V0lD
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    2910 months ago

    No, this should be an instance sticky since it significantly affects all members of an instance. Community stickiies are easy to overlook

    • fkn
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      -1710 months ago

      It really doesn’t… it doesn’t affect me at all.

      • @DigitalPortkey
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        1110 months ago

        “this thing that doesn’t affect me at all annoys me and shouldn’t be visible”

        There’s other people here who like the transparency. Literally all you have to do is keep scrolling…

        • fkn
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          -410 months ago

          And all you would have to do is look it up? This isn’t a good argument. What is being gained here by posting about it? This isn’t a secret. They aren’t pulling a fast one over on you.

          You know what would be great? If there was a way we could… I dunno… collate all of these kinds of posts into a kind of… group… where like minded people could… get together and talk about it. I wonder if someone like this could exist. What do you think?

          • @DigitalPortkey
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            410 months ago

            Do you believe that on a social platform like this, democracy is the best policy when it comes to what is shown and what is not?

            • fkn
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              -110 months ago

              No. Not in the slightest. If you think that we should vote to defederate from csam before we defederate from csam you have something wrong with you. If you say “that’s not what I mean.” No. That’s exactly what a democracy is.

              Should we have a responsive, responsible team that makes decisions for us? Yes. Is it a democracy? Fuck no. Is it nice that they listen to their users wants and needs? Yes. Should their be transparency in the process? Yes.