EXCLUSIVE: Meta and Alphabet will pull back from news distribution in more countries if forced to pay for content, the CEO of leading Canadian public network CBC/Radio Canada has predicted. Catheri…
I’m not entirely sure how one could create a internet of interconnected computers and servers without links to one another and the webpages they serve.
Short of maybe making one “central hub” controlled by one state/entity. Though this would probably not turn out great.
Short of maybe making one “central hub” controlled by one state/entity. Though this would probably not turn out great
I think public search engines is a good idea though it would be multiple states
I suppose it’s because I’m old so I don’t like how centralized and profit driven the internet has become but I see nothing wrong with profit sharing with websites on pages where their link is used
I see nothing wrong with profit sharing with websites on pages where their link is used
It’s just strange when the law gets involved to carve out weird special cases for special interests.
If site operators don’t want incoming connections to their systems without having record of payment received from a referring party, they can simply deny the request. Hell, put up a big red notice that says “You are not permitted to access this website because the place from whence you came refuses to pay for your access. Please encourage them to do so to help fund our wonderful content!” for all anyone cares.
This is all perfectly negotiable through boring old contract law that has been around forever.
If Facebook wasn’t allowed to show more than just a link then they would react in a similar manner
Funny thing is that Facebook gave publishers what they call Open Graph many years ago to allow them exacting control over what the links entail. All of Canada’s major publications have adopted Open Graph. If you are seeing more than just a link, it is because the publication has explicitly given more information to Facebook to use.
If you don’t want Facebook to have that information… maybe don’t provide it?
If said posting fell under fair use there is little the publication can do, but that’s on purpose! We created fair use laws specifically to allow that behaviour. If that is not what we want anymore, logically we would revert the law, not come up with all kinds of weird and contrived bandaids to help only special friends.
If the post fell short of fair use, the publication would have the legal right to seek penalization for the person who posted the content. It would also be a violation of Facebook’s terms of service. In this case, the answer to your question is essentially yes. It cannot be prevented, per se, but corrective action can be taken – which also serves to dissuade others from doing the same in the future.
Yes, you are quite right that the Canadian news media does not appropriately understand the technology they are trying to use and regulation should disallow their use of it going forward.
I’m not entirely sure how one could create a internet of interconnected computers and servers without links to one another
One could always look at the history books, I guess. It is believed that the first real-world use of hyperlinks on the internet took place in 1991. It is also believed that the Internet as we know it was born in 1983. That means we lived through eight actual years of this “unimaginable” internet.
It is the NiH syndrome attempt to recreate Usenet all over again. One would think the audience is smart enough to read between the lines, but then again, the audience doesn’t understand the difference between the internet and services on the internet, so I suppose I wasn’t smart enough to recognize that I couldn’t be so generous. I too am part of the same audience.
I’m not entirely sure how one could create a internet of interconnected computers and servers without links to one another and the webpages they serve.
Short of maybe making one “central hub” controlled by one state/entity. Though this would probably not turn out great.
I think public search engines is a good idea though it would be multiple states
I suppose it’s because I’m old so I don’t like how centralized and profit driven the internet has become but I see nothing wrong with profit sharing with websites on pages where their link is used
It’s just strange when the law gets involved to carve out weird special cases for special interests.
If site operators don’t want incoming connections to their systems without having record of payment received from a referring party, they can simply deny the request. Hell, put up a big red notice that says “You are not permitted to access this website because the place from whence you came refuses to pay for your access. Please encourage them to do so to help fund our wonderful content!” for all anyone cares.
This is all perfectly negotiable through boring old contract law that has been around forever.
I see the law as a step not the end and would rather further the reaches of the legislation than repeal it
As per blocking referrals I feel the issue is more the title and blurb stops people from clicking through as is. Hence the legislation
If Facebook wasn’t allowed to show more than just a link then they would react in a similar manner
Lemmy has a similar issue of people only reading the title or what the person said about a link
Funny thing is that Facebook gave publishers what they call Open Graph many years ago to allow them exacting control over what the links entail. All of Canada’s major publications have adopted Open Graph. If you are seeing more than just a link, it is because the publication has explicitly given more information to Facebook to use.
If you don’t want Facebook to have that information… maybe don’t provide it?
Can they prevent people from posting text with their links?
If said posting fell under fair use there is little the publication can do, but that’s on purpose! We created fair use laws specifically to allow that behaviour. If that is not what we want anymore, logically we would revert the law, not come up with all kinds of weird and contrived bandaids to help only special friends.
If the post fell short of fair use, the publication would have the legal right to seek penalization for the person who posted the content. It would also be a violation of Facebook’s terms of service. In this case, the answer to your question is essentially yes. It cannot be prevented, per se, but corrective action can be taken – which also serves to dissuade others from doing the same in the future.
I’m glad you see the need for new regulations
Yes, you are quite right that the Canadian news media does not appropriately understand the technology they are trying to use and regulation should disallow their use of it going forward.
One could always look at the history books, I guess. It is believed that the first real-world use of hyperlinks on the internet took place in 1991. It is also believed that the Internet as we know it was born in 1983. That means we lived through eight actual years of this “unimaginable” internet.
aha the internet as you know it was not born in 1983 unless you are mostly interacting on lemmy with email and ftp
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Lemmy – or what was originally known as Usenet – was created in 1979. It predates the internet as we know it.
Not sure where you think email and FTP come into play. Usenet began with UUCP and later NNTP.
Lemmy was never known as Usenet.
It is the NiH syndrome attempt to recreate Usenet all over again. One would think the audience is smart enough to read between the lines, but then again, the audience doesn’t understand the difference between the internet and services on the internet, so I suppose I wasn’t smart enough to recognize that I couldn’t be so generous. I too am part of the same audience.
I guess you’re just too smart for people to understand.