Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) joined Fox’s Maria Bartiromo on Thursday and tore into Ukraine’s President Volodymyr Zelensky while repeating many anti-Ukraine talking points
Senators Glenn and McCain were cleared of having acted improperly but were criticized for having exercised “poor judgment”.
Keating and DeConcini were asking McCain to travel to San Francisco to meet with regulators regarding Lincoln Savings; McCain refused.[7][11] DeConcini told Keating that McCain was nervous about interfering.[7] Keating called McCain a “wimp” behind his back, and on March 24, Keating and McCain had a heated, contentious meeting.[11]
The regulators then revealed that Lincoln was under criminal investigation on a variety of serious charges, at which point McCain severed all relations with Keating.[7]
I’m all for shitting on McCain for some of the questionable takes he’s had in his life, but I don’t think this is the obvious “he’s corrupt” politician mic drop you think it is.
Yeah, I don’t believe McCain didn’t know what he was getting into. They gave him a slap on the wrist and told him not to do it again, even though he was clearly involved. For anyone less wealthy or connected, they would have been convicted as an accessory at the very least.
I dunno that seems pretty prejudicial. It’s literally the job of politicians to listen to their constituents and advocate for them. Obviously there’s a problem of unequal access and representation, but I’m not sure anything he did here is particularly outside that mold, certainly not criminal. Can you actually point to something concrete that he did that you think is criminal?
I would draw a pretty bright line between listening to foreign interests and promoting them. Also, there’s plenty of times the foreign interest is also in your constituents best interest, and the only way to find that out is to listen to their proposals. I’m not saying there’s not plenty of examples of both extremes, but there’s a whole lot of middle grey area that you have to think hard about.
A foreign company wants to build a huge factory here and employ a bunch of workers. They’ll need help navigating local bureaucracy and red tape, but you get a lot of good jobs. However, they’ll then be competing with other American manufacturers, but their output and presence might spawn more jobs beyond just the factory itself.
There’s infinite variations on these kind of premises and to just say that in retrospect it was a corrupt ask or a bad deal is pure hindsight bias.
Again, I’m not saying the man is flawless, no one is, politicians especially, but I do think he mostly operated in a way that put the best interests of the country first.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keating_Five
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I’m all for shitting on McCain for some of the questionable takes he’s had in his life, but I don’t think this is the obvious “he’s corrupt” politician mic drop you think it is.
Yeah, I don’t believe McCain didn’t know what he was getting into. They gave him a slap on the wrist and told him not to do it again, even though he was clearly involved. For anyone less wealthy or connected, they would have been convicted as an accessory at the very least.
I dunno that seems pretty prejudicial. It’s literally the job of politicians to listen to their constituents and advocate for them. Obviously there’s a problem of unequal access and representation, but I’m not sure anything he did here is particularly outside that mold, certainly not criminal. Can you actually point to something concrete that he did that you think is criminal?
Acting as a messenger and promoting foreign interests over the welfare of the nation and his constituents is acceptable to you? Good to know.
I would draw a pretty bright line between listening to foreign interests and promoting them. Also, there’s plenty of times the foreign interest is also in your constituents best interest, and the only way to find that out is to listen to their proposals. I’m not saying there’s not plenty of examples of both extremes, but there’s a whole lot of middle grey area that you have to think hard about.
A foreign company wants to build a huge factory here and employ a bunch of workers. They’ll need help navigating local bureaucracy and red tape, but you get a lot of good jobs. However, they’ll then be competing with other American manufacturers, but their output and presence might spawn more jobs beyond just the factory itself.
There’s infinite variations on these kind of premises and to just say that in retrospect it was a corrupt ask or a bad deal is pure hindsight bias.
Again, I’m not saying the man is flawless, no one is, politicians especially, but I do think he mostly operated in a way that put the best interests of the country first.