Apple removes app created by Andrew Tate::Legal firm had said Real World Portal encouraged misogyny and there was evidence to suggest it is an illegal pyramid scheme

  • @[email protected]
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    311 year ago

    This app didn’t get taken down because it was by a “controversial” guy. It got taken down because content in the app encouraged violence and because the app itself was a pyramid scheme (People had to pay $50/month just to use the app, with promises of rewards if they got more people to join).

    Google removed the app from their store, too. Yes, you can still probably install it from their website or a third party app store on Android, and yes, it would be great if third party app stores and sideloading existed for iOS (and they kinda do, though they’re very limited) but even if they did exist it would be reasonable to expect every single one of them to refuse to host this app (especially if “hosting” entails accepting payments).

    Tate can still host this via the web. He can even build a progressive web app for it. I suspect he’ll run into issues collecting that $50 monthly payment any way other than by crypto, though, since I suspect most payment processors will refuse to work with him.

    • Cam
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      -351 year ago

      The app was taken down because it had Andrew Tate’s name on it, lets not kid ourselves.

      Even if you were correct on why the app was taken down due to “it will cause violence”, minus well ban all social media apps and messanging apps.

      If the app was banned due to it being a scam (which is not the case), that is reasonable to protect users, but still sucks since even if the app was banned with the excuse of it being a scam, iOS users are SOL since there is no alternative way to really install apps on iOS.

      • wagoner
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        1 year ago

        Were you a user of this app? Why do you say it’s not a scam?

        • Cam
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          -141 year ago

          I never used the app. However I know many tankies hate Andree Tate and Lemmy is full of tankies. I doubt a famous guy on the internet will start a scam app which will ruin his reputation. And seeing people get cancelled by tankies over snd over again with false accusations, I am sure the accusation of this app being a scam is false.

          Even if the app is a complete scam and Andrew Tate made it to scam his fans, sadly tankes online have zero credibility for making that accusation. Why should I trust lefties (a cult following) that cancelled so many people over false accusations in the past?

          Call me a fanboy if you want, I do not know much about the man. Even if Andrew Tate is a truly evil man, it is not my fault since the reputstion tankies have made when it comes to “he should be cancelled” is always due to absurb reasons and is fuelled with envy and hate.

          If you do not like my answer to this, fine. I do not care and thats your problem since cancel culture brought me to this conclusion. And I am against censorship in general which is known to piss off many tankies.

          • wagoner
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            61 year ago

            Tankies, lefties, and cancel culture, got it.

          • Flying Squid
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            31 year ago

            I doubt a famous guy on the internet will start a scam app which will ruin his reputation.

            Do you also doubt a famous guy on the internet would traffic women and then charge people a fee to learn how to traffic women? Because that’s what Andrew Tate did.

      • @[email protected]
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        111 year ago

        If the issue were his name, then it wouldn’t have made it on the App Store in the first place.

        Apple also removes social media apps that don’t meet their standards for moderation, so that’s already a thing. For example:

        Note that Apple didn’t remove “Truth Social” (though Google did) so this isn’t a political issue (it may be for Google, but I doubt it).

        Check out Apple’s App Store Review Guidelines. Personally, I approve of Apple protecting its users from scams and other dangerous content. There are a ton of things I’d love for them to be more open about allowing, but I’m fine with them banning apps like this one.

        Is your issue that you don’t like Apple’s requirements? If so, this app is an excellent point in their favor in most people’s eyes.

        Is your issue that you think Apple’s requirements are discriminatory in some way? If so, an app by a cis het white misogynist is probably not a great example of that.

        Do you think their standards were applied unfairly? If so, I find it hard to believe that you even read their guidelines.

        Honestly, I get the impression that you’re just a Tate fanboy and that you’re mad that Apple pulled his app.

        scam (which is not the case)

        I’m guessing you haven’t visited the website, because it screams “Scam!”

        no alternative way to install apps on iOS

        Apple users can install PWAs.

        • Cam
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          -181 year ago

          cis het

          I stop reading after that since those are made up words.

          My two cents is that censorship is bad. Not many on lemmy get it since they see censorship as a weapon to use against their opponents. However censorship usually always gets out of control over time and that is why I oppose it.

          Android is the way to go since Android is censorship resistant to app store bannings by allowing APK sideloads and alternative app stores to Google Play.

          • just another dev
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            111 year ago

            I stop reading after that since those are made up words.

            How did you manage to read any words before those?

          • @[email protected]
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            91 year ago

            I stop reading after that since those are made up words.

            Ahh, so you’re a complete fucking moron then. Checks out since you’re defending Andrew “I moved to Romania so I wouldn’t be charged with rape” Tate.

          • @[email protected]
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            71 year ago

            I stopped reading because your entire comment is composed of made up words.

            Go fanboy somewhere else.

      • @[email protected]
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        51 year ago

        If the app was banned due to it being a scam (which is not the case)

        The term “scam” is a straw man. “Scam” is subjective, so you could define a scam as “an app that provides no content and steals your money” and conclude that the app in question is not that, and therefore fine.

        The main assertion in the article is:

        the app deliberately targets young men and encourages misogyny, including members of the app sharing techniques on how to control and exploit women. The firm has also claimed that there is evidence to suggest that the app is an illegal pyramid scheme

        • Cam
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          -91 year ago

          The main assertion in the article is:

          It is a Guardian article. Not a trustworthy source, has a strong leftie bias and has been known to dox people in the past.

          Therefore, why should I take the article accusations seriously?

          • @[email protected]
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            31 year ago

            Sorry I don’t really understand your position.

            You’re rejecting the quotes from the article on the basis of the publication, suggesting a better accusation would be a “scam”, and then refuting that accusation as baseless.

            I’m not trying to be an ass, I mean this as kindly as possible, but this is a straw man argument. You should look into logical fallacies. They’re well documented tactics for manipulating people and misrepresenting information. Everyone should. It will help you to reason about information and ultimately identify when you’re being manipulated.

            • Cam
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              -71 year ago

              I cannot imagine being blue pilled.

              • @Marruk
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                41 year ago

                I’m confident that the amount of things you cannot imagine is quite substantial; certainly far more than that of an average person.