“It’s ridiculous this was allowed to happen and that nobody checked or cared about what the “First Ukrainian Division” was.”
The guy who invited and introduced him said he did it because the dude was from his district, and didn’t bother to tell anybody about it, which is plausable, I guess. What’s shocking to me is that he is the Speaker of the House. He clearly didn’t do his research, and doesn’t know his history (he said the Nazi bravely fought the Russians for the independence of Ukraine, or some stupid shit like that). What is this, the US?
Yeah unfortunately a lot of that murkiness involved siding with Hitler even if the individual was only motivated by Ukrainian independence, at least that’s probably the best case scenario, a lot of times that also involved fascist sentiments. These units committed atrocities, not all of them, but they were all treated the same after the war and allowed to resettle. Is it possible with some of these individuals to empathize but not sympathize as a historical approach would take? Whatever the answer, I don’t think it’s appropriate to honor them for their service like what just happened in the entire house of commons.
Calling it a blunder might even be an understatement, although I don’t think a lot of the House knew this was happening or had a chance to assess this guy before they performatively “honored” him, which potentially makes it even stupider.
“It’s ridiculous this was allowed to happen and that nobody checked or cared about what the “First Ukrainian Division” was.”
The guy who invited and introduced him said he did it because the dude was from his district, and didn’t bother to tell anybody about it, which is plausable, I guess. What’s shocking to me is that he is the Speaker of the House. He clearly didn’t do his research, and doesn’t know his history (he said the Nazi bravely fought the Russians for the independence of Ukraine, or some stupid shit like that). What is this, the US?
Things get a bit murky with the volounters of eastern europe there was a ss division from balticum that after the war where put as guards at nurnberg.
Yeah unfortunately a lot of that murkiness involved siding with Hitler even if the individual was only motivated by Ukrainian independence, at least that’s probably the best case scenario, a lot of times that also involved fascist sentiments. These units committed atrocities, not all of them, but they were all treated the same after the war and allowed to resettle. Is it possible with some of these individuals to empathize but not sympathize as a historical approach would take? Whatever the answer, I don’t think it’s appropriate to honor them for their service like what just happened in the entire house of commons.
Calling it a blunder might even be an understatement, although I don’t think a lot of the House knew this was happening or had a chance to assess this guy before they performatively “honored” him, which potentially makes it even stupider.
They where not all allowed too resettle in stalins ussr