65% of U.S. adults say the way the president is elected should be changed so that the winner of the popular vote nationwide wins the presidency.

  • @aidan
    link
    11 year ago

    Democracy wasn’t intended, I agree with that, but I don’t think many wanted an entire democracy either, it wasn’t just about states wanting power but also about minority representation. I personally prefer a constitutional system to a democratic system.

    • @[email protected]
      link
      fedilink
      English
      01 year ago

      I mean, sure. They were also slaveholders. This is just trivia not something speaking to what should happen in the current day.

      • @aidan
        link
        01 year ago

        Because the constitution was the charter, the binding contract underwhich previously separate political entities agreed to be governed. You can’t just change my rental contract to kick out my roommate midway through my term without following an established process we both signed on.

        • @[email protected]
          link
          fedilink
          English
          11 year ago

          Talking about the constitution protecting minority representation at anything but the state-vs-state level or acting like it’s a personal contract any of us at any point voluntarily entered into or could have rejected if not structured in this way is a laughable diversion. How it was made and that it exists as the current law of the land is irrelevant in a discussion of its current failures.

          Again, there’s a reason we don’t implement it in other countries. It persists here because of inertia and cynical resistance by a minority party that can’t win governing power without it, but it’s not a good system in a country that purports to gain moral justification for its government through all of its citizens being equal.

          • @aidan
            link
            01 year ago

            Yes it was a contract at a state to federal government level, furthermore, it is a binding concession of power from the federal government

            through all of its citizens being equal.

            Equality doesn’t mean democracy. Democracy grants a majority power over a minority.

            • @[email protected]
              link
              fedilink
              English
              11 year ago

              Now 1 person 1 vote isn’t equal? Democracy is everyone has the right to state their preferences and be treated equally. That sometimes more people want the other thing isn’t a flaw in the system and in no way a justification to just give some people more votes. A tyranny of the majority is a whole lot better than a tyranny of the minority.

              I swear there must be some kind of rural state indoctrination camp where people learn that 1 person 1 vote is actually bad and they’re rightfully entitled to more say than those dirty city-dwellers. All while talking about the minority rights carefully crafted by the slaveholding men who literally transferred votes from the slaves to their oppressors.