• @solstice
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    01 year ago

    Ok, I make 7.25 an hour and my employer bill me out at $25/hr. My employer walks away with 30% or about $7.50, etc etc. The sample numbers are meaningless.

    • @[email protected]
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      61 year ago

      The material realities of someone making 7.25 (which I will concede is a little bit of a strawman, most people make more but not much) is very different than someone making 100/hr. The petit bourgeois exist for a reason. They’re still exploited but only to a point. They’re “commoners” that benefit from the status quo and wish to uphold it. They have it good enough and can relate to the disadvantaged people’s plight insofar as it allows them to dismiss their criticisms as being lazy, not working hard enough, bootstraps, yada yada. They’re a foil and a buffer between the proletariat and the bourgeoise. You can point to them to say the exact things you’re saying right now

      • @solstice
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        21 year ago

        So raise minimum wage to $20-30/hr. You don’t need to toss capitalism out the window to do that. It’s overly simplistic to blame these problems on one ism and naive at best to think these problems will go away for swapping it with another ism.

        • @[email protected]
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          01 year ago

          The case for abolition of capitalism is a lot more involved than raising wages. And simply raising wages alone would not come close to a holistic, equitable solution to wealth inequality and systemic oppression.

          I dont have the time or desire to get into the minutae of socialist critiques of capitalism but marx is a great place to start. Marxism Today has a playlist breaking down Marxism-Lininism-Maoism. Skip to the bottom bit for pure economic analysis of capitalism and it’s flaws.

          I’m an anarchist personally and I only really value their critique as far as it applies to anti-capitalism. But they make a good case for their ideology and it would at least expose.you to general underpinnings of socialist thought. If you’re interested in actually learning about the thing you’re seemingly against, I’d be happy to provide more resources in whichever format you prefer. They will have a far more libertarian socialist slant to them than the link I provided above though, so fair warning

      • fkn
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        21 year ago

        I’m confused. I don’t see a rebutal to the actual argument here.

      • @solstice
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        1 year ago

        I’m done with you. Come back if you have something constructive to add to the conversation.

        • @SpaceNoodle
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          01 year ago

          You’re just mad someone’s calling you out on your whataboutism.

          • @solstice
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            31 year ago

            There’s actually some good discussion in this thread. You should try thinking of something constructive to add, or show yourself out.

        • Montagge
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          -31 year ago

          I bet you are lol
          Three comments in and we’ve already hit the bottom of your sad view of the world