• @[email protected]
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    -11 year ago

    Do you have me confused with someone who has wronged you?

    My only response so far was a (admittedly cheeky) reply to your comment about how your reasoning for something being a ‘hard truth’ is simply because it’s the way is…a complete circle, your logic on that one.

    You’re getting dragged by others because you opened with an objective claim that milk tastes better, which is a subjective opinion. You’re now pivoting to argue that cow milk is objectively better because it’s more popular? Taylor Swift isn’t the best musician because she’s popular. Because “best” is incredibly complex. Best guitarist? Composer? Singer? What’s best of any of those categories, anyway? We gotta ask Phaedrus, I suppose.

    If you’re trying to argue that cow milk is the “best”: Cow milk is really good at getting protein and other minerals/vitamins to folks. Really good. It’s got a lot of properties that make it really useful in some recipes I love. Also I eat a lot of dairy ice cream, and yogurt. I’m not some anti-milk crusader.

    Dairy production, however, is really energy- and space-intensive compared to some alternatives. There’s a tradeoff to be thought carefully about, and it deserves more than “cow milk is popular therefore it’s the best”. Unless you’re just trying to say that cow milk is popular because cow milk is popular (which no one was arguing?). If that’s the case, see my first reply. Circularity complete.

    • @thantik
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      I’m not arguing cow milk is popular because cow milk is popular. I’m arguing that it’s popular because it is subjectively better than the alternatives.

      Kind of like how dogs are 4 legged animals, but not all 4 legged animals are dogs. Your argument to that is claiming circular reasoning, but it’s clearly not.

      Subsidies happen because they want to keep the prices low, because it’s a popular food item. The majority have chosen it, so that makes it the market leader. They didn’t choose it because it was a popular choice. And so inherently that makes it what it is. The defacto best option. Sometimes you have to paint with a broad brush when talking about broad topics.

      Fact is, they lack a lot of the subjective properties that make milk as useful as it is. Milk is popular because it’s the best. It’s not the best because of its popularity. The popularity is simply an easy to understand byproduct of its superiority.

      How about actually learning what circular reasoning is.