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The Grace Hopper Celebration is meant to unite women in tech. This year droves of men came looking for jobs.
The Grace Hopper Celebration is meant to unite women in tech. This year droves of men came looking for jobs.
I can’t tell if your misunderstanding is unintentional or trolling. In the context of this conversation, the community I was referring to was the group of women and enbys who worked together for years to try to overcome some of the systemic issues facing women and enbys in tech.
Also, since you seem determined to give only brief one-liners in response, I have no interest in continuing this conversation with you.
Transgender women are overrepresented in tech. The event should be for females in order to properly address the real discrepancy at play.
My point was that I don’t feel being in a community with every man in existence, and likewise I see no point to limit a community to a specific gender, especially in this day and age. “We don’t know you, it’s the first time I see you” is a valid reason for not considering someone a part of a community (yet) on a fair presumably meant for already established members. “You’re a man, go away” just isn’t.
Quite a bold statement after a single reply from me. Did we have some similar interaction beforehand elsewhere? I usually don’t pay much attention to nicknames, so apologies if by chance it was a repeated occurrence.
Of course you don’t feel like you’re in community with every man, you’re not a fucking marginalized gender! Some of us have to have solidarity to survive.
This is the whole point of the fucking event in the first place! Y’all have to insert yourselves into literally everything don’t you? Unbelievably childish.
Lynching people based on their race is bad. I think we can all agree on that.
Once we make lynching illegal. Should there be a grace period, where people of the marginalized race are allowed to lynch people of the dominant race?
If lynching is bad, it should be bad for everybody, all the time.
I don’t see why discrimination based on gender has a different criteria.
This is the dumbest shit I’ve ever read and if you can’t see the miles of difference between a women-only job fair and lynching black people I don’t know what to tell you.
An actual example would be segregation of schools by race. White students had the better schools and education. So when segregation became illegal, it would be like a period where black students organized their own resources for catching up, their own space and time, etc. Now imagine they had just enough books/teachers for engaging those students. And then white students showed up and began using the books, asking for their own tutoring from the teachers, etc - leaving less for the students who were at a disadvantage to begin with. Then the white kids start crying when they are told they aren’t welcome in this space dedicated to leveling the field of knowledge.
In summary: Jesus fucking christ a job fair is not like lynching, you fucking wacko.
In your segregation example, would reverse segregation be acceptable?
Asking white students to not take the resources that black students worked hard to provide for themselves after white students had the privilege of them all along? Yes. Yes it would be shitty of the white kids to show up and take those resources. Similar to how it’s shitty of men to take the resources that women worked to provide to other women in an attempt at making the industry more equal.
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