• @ChonkyOwlbear
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    31 year ago

    That’s a balance of politics. Better to be self-sufficient than to depend on other countries for oil. We are still going to be using oil for a while until we create a whole new national infrastructure for electric vehicles and phase out most gas engines.

    • blazera
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      51 year ago

      Yeah we’re gonna continue heating up the planet for a while too.

      • @ChonkyOwlbear
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        11 year ago

        Sure, but there isn’t an alternative. Currently only 4% of US car owners drive an electric car and only 20% of the energy we produce is renewable. Even if we transition as fast as humanly possible, it would take decades.

        • blazera
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          21 year ago

          Other countries seem to be doin a much faster job than us. This dont have shit to do with capabilities.

          • @ChonkyOwlbear
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            11 year ago

            They started earlier. We can’t go back in time. We can only start now.

            • blazera
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              11 year ago

              Millions of acres of new oil drilling is nothing but continuin to put off starting

              • @ChonkyOwlbear
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                11 year ago

                It is not to increase consumption. The only difference is the oil used in the US will come from the US, not Saudi Arabia, Russia, etc.

                • blazera
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                  11 year ago

                  I said continuing to heat the planet and putting off starting to address our emissions, you telling me this doesnt change anything is exactly the problem, it needs to be changed.

                  • @ChonkyOwlbear
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                    1 year ago

                    I agree it needs to be changed, but how?

                    How do the millions of people who depend on gas cars get to work tomorrow? How do the millions of people with gas stoves heat their dinner tonight? How do the millions of people with gas furnaces stay warm this winter?

                    We can’t just stop using fossil fuels without replacements. How do you change any of this faster than we already are?

        • @[email protected]OPM
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          21 year ago

          Right. But it doesn’t look like a sudden cut-over; it’ll look like oil use dropping something like 5% each year if we require every new vehicle to be an EV.

          • @vanderstilt
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            11 year ago

            How soon would the supply chains and manufacturing capacity be ready for every vehicle sold in the US to be an ev?

            • @[email protected]OPM
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              21 year ago

              Something like 3-5 years if it was mandated and people living ordinary lives lived with mid-sized cars instead of pickup trucks with less ability to spot a kid in front of them than a tank.

              • @vanderstilt
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                11 year ago

                Given trends so far you’ll forgive me if I think even 5 years is way too optimistic.