A set of merge requests were opened that would effectively drop X.Org (X11) session support for the GNOME desktop and once that code is removed making it a Wayland-only desktop environment.

Going along with Fedora 40 looking to disable the GNOME X11 session support (and also making KDE Plasma 6 Wayland-only for Fedora), upstream GNOME is evaluating the prospect of disabling and then removing their X11 session support.

Some concerns were raised already how this could impact downstream desktops like Budgie and Pantheon that haven’t yet fully transitioned over to Wayland. In any event we’ll see where the discussions lead but it’s sure looking like 2024 will be the year that GNOME goes Wayland-only.

  • @echo64
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    69 months ago

    I’m gonna assume you can use Cuda, without driving the display with nvidia. You just need a motherboard with onboard Intel

    • @[email protected]
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      59 months ago

      That seems like a rather extreme work-around for Wayland proponent delusions. Buying an nvidia card and then not using it for graphics at all.

      • @echo64
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        29 months ago

        I was offering solutions to ops problem, is that not allowed?

        • @[email protected]
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          59 months ago

          Funny that people are downvoting when this is what hybrid graphics in laptops do. The iGPU to drive the display and heavier tasks get offloaded to the dGPU

    • @[email protected]
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      That’s gonna make gaming a lot harder though. And I’m on an AMD CPU. I’m not sure whether it has an internal GPU even. My point is that they’ll lose a lot of users by forcing Wayland. I’m not dure Nvidia will care for such pressure

      • @echo64
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        69 months ago

        Yeah, but kde is also heading down the same path. The world can’t keep maintaining a legacy stack forever just because a private company doesn’t care about the problem.

        I know people want things to just work and don’t care about the rest but the reality is that unpaid volunteers do 99% of the work and I don’t really think they should have to do extra work just because of nvidia. Maybe nvidia users get left behind, that would suck. I hope nvidia choose to fix their shit instead.

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          09 months ago

          I agree that volunteers shouldn’t have to maintain legacy just because a private company doesn’t have their shit together. But the reality is that a lot of people have Nvidia hardware. If GNOME and KDE will not work on the most popular gaming GPU brand, we’re going to push away a lot of people who are trying to start with Linux but encounter a broken mess.

          • @echo64
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            19 months ago

            Sounds like you don’t agree that

            “volunteers shouldn’t have to maintain legacy just because a private company doesn’t have their shit together”

            you think they should, to avoid pushing people away.

            • @[email protected]
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              19 months ago

              I’m just saying that it doesn’t matter whether we agree or not. If the choice is made to drop X support and Nvidia doesn’t fix Wayland, a lot of people will end up in a mess when trying Linux for the first time and might turn back to Windows/Mac. I agree that no volunteer should do anything they don’t want to do. But in the world we live in that does mean we have a problem