Democratic socialist politicians like Cori Bush and Rashida Tlaib are right about the violence in Israel and Palestine: we should both be mourning civilian deaths and calling for an end to the Israeli occupation.
Israel has made it clear that it will not accept peace. Israel at no point in time was ever willing to accept a two-state solution. Israel and Hamas are terrorist organizations.
The difference between Israel and Hamas is that Israel is extremely well-funded and serves with consent of the governed whereas Hamas is extremely poorly funded and less than half of the population was born when they were “elected” and even fewer of them participated in that election.
Israel at no point in time was ever willing to accept a two-state solution.
This is objectively false. Please, just look it up. In recent times, a majority of Israeli people do not support it, but a majority did before the last five years or so.
Israeli politics are dominated by right-wing hardliners who need constant conflict with the Palestinians for their own political survival. Netanyahu himself has constructed his entire political identity around being the only person who can be trusted with Israel’s security. As long as this is the case, what the Israeli population wants or doesn’t want is immaterial
My friend, these anti-Israel zealots won’t be happy unless Israel just rolls over and lets Hamas kill Jews without consequence.
The anti-Israel crowd thinkd Israel is the devil of it fights back.
They think Israel is the devil, if, as you mentioned, they call buildings ahead of time, and give people time to evacuate, before Israel bombs terrorist. Headquarters, because I guess they think Palestinian buildings are more important than Israeli lives.
They think Israel is the devil if they build a security fence to keep our suicide bombers.
Mostly they think Israel is the devil because Israel offered the most general peace deal in history, but refuse to give Palestinian’s the Right of Return, which would have allowed Palestinians to claim voting rights, and literally vote to turn Israel into an anti-Jewish theocracy.
Now… Most of the people HERE haven’t the foggiest clue about any of that. And if you talked them through the situation and the options, they’d understand that Israel does not now, nor have they ever had a partner on the Palestinian side with which to make peace. They want Israel gone, full stop. And you can’t make peace with people who believe in literally no situations in which you still exist at the end.
Israel, on the other hand has showed throughout it’s history that it will do extraordinary things for peace. They gave up land for peace with Egypt. They have offered extraordinary concessions.
But the people who really needed to read this downvoted me in the first paragraph and are already typing a rant.
I like how you frame everyone who disagrees with you as anti-semetic. I wonder what sort of mental gymnastics you’ll do to paint the multiple Jewish organizations that took part in the pro-Palestinian rally after the attack as Jew-haters.
Israel is an apartheid state, and the Jewish community in the US is leading the way in teaching us why that nation needs to be dismantled or reined in by the international community.
Israel has made it clear that it will not accept peace. Israel at no point in time was ever willing to accept a two-state solution. Israel and Hamas are terrorist organizations.
The difference between Israel and Hamas is that Israel is extremely well-funded and serves with consent of the governed whereas Hamas is extremely poorly funded and less than half of the population was born when they were “elected” and even fewer of them participated in that election.
This is objectively false. Please, just look it up. In recent times, a majority of Israeli people do not support it, but a majority did before the last five years or so.
Israeli politics are dominated by right-wing hardliners who need constant conflict with the Palestinians for their own political survival. Netanyahu himself has constructed his entire political identity around being the only person who can be trusted with Israel’s security. As long as this is the case, what the Israeli population wants or doesn’t want is immaterial
My friend, these anti-Israel zealots won’t be happy unless Israel just rolls over and lets Hamas kill Jews without consequence.
The anti-Israel crowd thinkd Israel is the devil of it fights back.
They think Israel is the devil, if, as you mentioned, they call buildings ahead of time, and give people time to evacuate, before Israel bombs terrorist. Headquarters, because I guess they think Palestinian buildings are more important than Israeli lives.
They think Israel is the devil if they build a security fence to keep our suicide bombers.
Mostly they think Israel is the devil because Israel offered the most general peace deal in history, but refuse to give Palestinian’s the Right of Return, which would have allowed Palestinians to claim voting rights, and literally vote to turn Israel into an anti-Jewish theocracy.
Now… Most of the people HERE haven’t the foggiest clue about any of that. And if you talked them through the situation and the options, they’d understand that Israel does not now, nor have they ever had a partner on the Palestinian side with which to make peace. They want Israel gone, full stop. And you can’t make peace with people who believe in literally no situations in which you still exist at the end.
Israel, on the other hand has showed throughout it’s history that it will do extraordinary things for peace. They gave up land for peace with Egypt. They have offered extraordinary concessions.
But the people who really needed to read this downvoted me in the first paragraph and are already typing a rant.
I like how you frame everyone who disagrees with you as anti-semetic. I wonder what sort of mental gymnastics you’ll do to paint the multiple Jewish organizations that took part in the pro-Palestinian rally after the attack as Jew-haters.
Israel is an apartheid state, and the Jewish community in the US is leading the way in teaching us why that nation needs to be dismantled or reined in by the international community.