• @SpaceNoodle
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    241 year ago

    Compared to ICE? Yes, they are.

    • @AdrianTheFrog
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      From what I’ve seen: EVs normally produce about half the carbon of regular cars, mostly from making the batteries. Switching fully to EVs would therefore reduce worldwide emissions by about 8%, compared to 16% by just getting rid of cars completely. EVs also don’t fix the societal problems of cars including sprawl and all of its related problems.

      An ideal future would have no internal combustion engines and only EVs. But there would be a lot fewer of them, and preferably in a much smaller form factor.

      As an unrelated side note, when I read ‘ICE’, the first thing that came to mind was the train. I’ve never even been to Germany…

      • @SpaceNoodle
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        91 year ago

        Don’t let perfect be the enemy of good.

    • @[email protected]
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      Your statement then should be: EVs are better than combustion engine cars. Period. Your first statement is clearly wrong, as EVs are not good for the environment. Just better then combustion engines. Far from good, further away from perfect.

      Don’t think you do something good when you buy an EV instead of a bike - if you have the choice.

      Making this choice possible should be our main concern, not EVs vs. combustion cars. They make us as lazy as your statement is.

      Edit: to the Downvoters: where is my statement wrong?

      • @SpaceNoodle
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        61 year ago

        Don’t let perfect be the enemy of good.

        • @[email protected]
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          -51 year ago

          No need to answer to my post, you won’t change my mind with your Poesiealbum-Zitat.

          Don’t let perfect be the enemy of good.

          • @SpaceNoodle
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            Yeah, you’ll just completely ignore the point anyway. Shame you don’t try to actually understand the words others write.

            • @[email protected]
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              -51 year ago

              I already told you why your 80/20 rule doesn’t make sense to me in this case. If you just repeat yourself without further explaining it just sounds braindead to me.

              Imagine two lines, the good line leading to a positive future and the bad line. EVs are on the bad line, but branch off from ICEs into a line that goes into the direction of the good line - but just can’t reach it. That’s my view on EVs and that’s why your statement doesn’t make sense to me. Now it’s your turn to repeat your one-liner again.

              • @SpaceNoodle
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                31 year ago

                I didn’t mention any 80/20 rule. Maybe the problem is all the shit you’re making up.

                • @[email protected]
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                  -41 year ago

                  Yeah, you’ll just completely ignore the point anyway. Shame you don’t try to actually understand the words others write.

                  • @SpaceNoodle
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                    31 year ago

                    So when you run out of words to put in my mouth, you just copy me? Sick burn, bro.

      • @Rapture
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        Bikes are made from metal that is mined from the ground and the tires are rubber that is produced from potrolium. All of that is bad for the environment. Almost all shoes are also made from rubber, and leather that comes from cows that produce methane thats bad for the environment, so you better be walking everywhere either barefoot or in handmade wooden clogs.

        If you really wanna play by those rules you are JUST as bad as the guy you replied to

        • @[email protected]
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          -31 year ago

          I am fully aware of the end of this line of thoughts, and it is not a good end. And I decided for myself that you have to artificially draw the line at some point.

          My line is between the difference of a two tonne car with a huge fucking battery and a bicycle. Where is yours?

          • @Cryophilia
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            41 year ago

            There need be no lines, dumbass. Just be accurate in your comparisons, rather than saying everything on THIS side of the line is bad and everything on THAT side of the line is good

            • @[email protected]
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              -31 year ago

              Dumbass? Do you want to amplify your point by insulting a stranger on the internet? Your arguments and personality must be awesome.

              • @Cryophilia
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                31 year ago

                Do you want to amplify your point by insulting a stranger on the internet?

                Obviously. But I guess I have to explain that to you because, well, you know.

                • @[email protected]
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                  -21 year ago

                  …because, well, you know.

                  No, I don’t, please explain it to me. What is your goal here?

                  • @Cryophilia
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                    21 year ago

                    Mainly to point out how dumb your thought process is. I have little hope that you will actually listen, but I do hope that any 3rd parties observing will see the logical inconsistencies and see why viewing things as a spectrum of bad to good is a much better way than viewing things as exclusively bad or good.