• macniel
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    431 year ago

    just looking at those two graphs in that article makes me sick…

    who can wholeheartedly support isreal in this conflict?

      • @dlpkl
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        31 year ago

        You could just say Zionists

    • @[email protected]
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      171 year ago

      Christians mostly. Their book says the world can’t end unless the Jews control the holy land. They can’t enter heaven until the rapture, which happens at the end. No one wants to chill in the dirt for a millenia or two until they go to the good place so they do everything they can to hasten the end days and get to heaven sooner. But they’re doing it for everyone, so it’s totally not selfish. This is also why they can’t leave uncontacted tribes alone, the rapture can’t happen until every living soul has been offered salvation through christ, whether they accept it or not. Everyone knowing about Jesus divinity and jews in israel are two of the checklist items to end the game and be judged. So that’s pretty much it, Christians support Israel because they literally want to end the world.

      • Ooops
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        131 year ago

        Funny how you seem to believe that the majority of christians even knows so many details about their own religion…

      • Cyclohexane
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        51 year ago

        Not Palestinian Christians who are getting persecuted by Israel.

        Or any Christian with a heart.

      • @CeeBee
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        51 year ago

        Their book says the world can’t end unless the Jews control the holy land.

        It does?

          • @CeeBee
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            11 year ago

            I can’t read the Washington Post one. It’s paywalled. But I see you’re referring to Zionists.

            Matthew 21:43 disagrees with that.

            As well as Matthew 23: 37, 38 - "37. Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the killer of the prophets and stoner of those sent to her… 38 Look! Your house is abandoned to you."

            Ancient Israel were the chosen people. But that was lost after they killed Jesus.

            But some can still attain God’s favour:

            Romans 9:27 - “Moreover, Isaiah cries out concerning Israel: “Although the number of the sons of Israel may be as the sand of the sea, only the remnant will be saved.”

            And Israel being the chosen people forever wouldn’t be fair to everyone else. And that was never the intention:

            Hebrews 8:6 - “But now Jesus has obtained a more excellent ministry because he is also the mediator of a correspondingly better covenant, which has been legally established on better promises.”

            The “better promises” is that “all men of all nations” could become one of God’s people, not just Israelites/Jews.

            I’m not trying to argue the validity of the Bible here, only pointing out that the Bible itself does not support any nation, after Jesus, to be God’s chosen people.

      • macniel
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        21 year ago

        can we please not speedrun rapture any%? The entire world population would like that :)

    • TWeaK
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      81 year ago

      I think the only reason people support either side in this conflict is because they hate the other.

    • @Zippy
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      01 year ago

      Israel is surrounded by hostile nations that are about ten times their population in total. Early on they started if attacked they would retaliate at minimum 10 times the damage and they have followed up on that to the point few nations will antagonize then. Actually had created some peace of a sort with some Middle Eastern countries. Peace long enough that real dialog has been possible.

      Hamas has a doctrine that they will drive and kill every last Jew in Israel. This is open and fully stated and has no ambiguity. This essentially makes any possibility of peace only temporary. The Palestinian people in the Gaza strip have become significantly disillusioned with Hamas since quality of life has significantly decreased since they took power in 2007. Initially Hamas was celebrated but with the failure of them to improve their situation, actually making it much worse, we were starting to see open opposition to their rule. Something they would put down thru violent means in past. Much the reason Hamas actually carried out this operation and why they may have done it without full support or knowledge of countries like Iran.

      It is unfortunate that Hamas will hide behind their own children and use civilians as shields. They have no qualms how many need to die to stay in power and enrich their leaders.