By making a minor concession EU governments hope to find a majority next week to approve the controversial „chat control“ bill. According to the proposed child sexual abuse regulation (CSAR), providers of messengers, e-mail and chat services would be forced to automatically search all private messag
  • Vincent
    27•1 year ago

    Telegram is already not encrypted end-to-end encrypted by default. Signal is the interesting app - they don’t even have the data to bow to data requests.

    • @[email protected]English
      2•1 year ago

      Of course it is encrypted by default, just not on device, but in the server side. Just like Gmail, office 365, and so many online services that are perfectly secure and that no one mentions as being a problem.

      If you need End to End encryption, you have the option to use it, but being server encrypted it’s more convenient for syncing on devices and for uploading files, which I use a lot.

      • Vincent
        2•1 year ago

        Sorry you’re right, I meant end-to-end encryption of course. (Gmail, Office 365, and most HTTPS websites are only encrypted in-transit though, not on the server side.)

        Which is, of course, the kind of encryption that matters for this proposal. (And which I believe you don’t have the option of using in group chats on Telegram, but don’t quote me on that.) Non-end-to-end encrypted messages can already be obtained by law enforcement by coercing the service provider.

    • DyskolosEnglish
      -1•1 year ago

      Signal or tgram. Whatever floats your boat and isn’t whatapp and co. It’s not always about encryption alone. It’s also about trust. I trust tgram and Pavel Durov. If one doesn’t, go signal & co. Perfectly valid alternative.

    • @[email protected]English
      -1•1 year ago

      Doesn’t Signal have backdoors for government agencies or am I mistaken? (Has been a while since I read something like that.)

      • NatanaelEnglish
        7•1 year ago

        No

        Every time somebody comes to them with warrants they got nothing but timestamps for account creation and last login

        Closest thing you might be thinking of is when Signal added a warning third party keyboards might spy on you, which was promptly followed by China banning Signal (the most popular Chinese keyboard app is developed within China).