This is a big problem. It creates the illusion that /c/cats on one particular instance is the real /c/cats.
This is the root of re-centralization and it must be pulled out.
This is a big problem. It creates the illusion that /c/cats on one particular instance is the real /c/cats.
This is the root of re-centralization and it must be pulled out.
Sorry, I edited my comment in the meantime. (Fixing broken grammar, linking the archives, stuff like this.) That said:
Not really. Even in worst case scenario (everyone migrates to a single instance), lemmy.ml is considerably wider in scope and userbase than the socially rejected in Voat.
And, while I do agree with you that there is a communication problem, and that it needs to be addressed, it is far from the worst case scenario. For example I consistently see here people from beehaw, lemmy.world, fedddit.de, and other instances.
Federation happens between instances, not between communities. You can access any community from a federated instance.
If federation is disabled by default (is it?), I think that this might have to do with spam and bot prevention. I’m not sure however.
Now, off-topic:
While I get that spending time in Reddit made us people behave less like decent human beings and more like dumbarses/redditors/morons, even then I think that we should watch out to not behave as such outside Reddit. Let its stupidity culture die with it.
From your comment, three things caught my attention:
Please, don’t.
You also have a difference in circumstances. People aren’t moving to lemmy.ml because they think that Reddit’s moderation and rules are too restrictive, unlike with Voat, which would change who is actually moving over, and the community through that, which is probably why Lemmy’s community is a bit on the tech-inclined side, and is a bit less of a politics quagmire.
Not to my knowledge. It’s probably just a case of it not existing on their instance, but coming up as disabled on their app. Trying to load it up, even on lemmy.ml, seems to just return a “community not found” error, which means that there just isn’t one made with that name, rather than a community existing, and being disabled.
Can confirm, was a bit confused. But even with context, 2 TB of data is a ludicrous amount to expect someone to pull. At an optimistic household connection speed of 50 Mbps, that’s 4 days straight of uninterrupted downloading, and a lot of off-the-shelf consumer devices don’t have that kind of capacity to spare. It’s retro, but not in a good way.
That’s also a Reddit archive, and would be limited in what kind of posts that it would contain, as anything made after the archive snapshot was taken would not be in it.
I think what they mean by /c/ federation is combining the communities, so that c/technology would combine lemmy.world/c/technology and kbin.social/m/technology and lemmy.ml/c/technology, but I’m not 100% sure.
If that is indeed what the other poster meant, then it’s even worse - it’s missing the point of federation, that is “let’s not centralise our discussions within a single place, as this gives too much power to the people who control that place”.
Sure, I agree with you :) I just wanted to clear up what I saw as a misunderstanding, not argue against your point :)
You misunderstand, I am asking for the maximum possible extreme type of decentralization
Yes, I want it all in one place. Preferably in my own, self hosted, single user Lemmy instance. Zero external filtering with my consent, sorting algorithm fully under my control. I will apply my own filters, spamblock, Adblock and moderation subscriptions as I see fit.