You break the 2 party system that forces you to vote for someone you dislike or someone you dislike more.
(Redacted: Tons of American Presidents have been third party.
Reason: a) Thought Theodore Roosevelt won as bull moose and b) misunderstood when I heard about “Democratic-Republican”, “Federalist”, and “Whig” Presidents.)
The modern delusion that a vote for a GOOD candidate is a wasted vote is horse shit.
Zero American Presidents have been third-party. The only election where a candidate outside the two major parties of the era got a large-ish share of votes was in 1912 when Theodore Roosevelt ran in the Bull Moose party and split the Republican vote. (edit: maybe 1860 too)
Yes, that would be great, but it requires changing the voting system. Unfortunately, the people with the power to do it have a strong incentive to block it.
Republicans and Democrats are the same fucking thing.
Remember when Democrats had a supermajority in both the house in the senate and were called upon to codify the right to abortion into the constitution and their answer was “don’t feel like it. Roe v Wade was enough”?
I remember that.
Remember when the sitting Democrat president penned an “aid package” that siphoned 50 BILLION dollars to Israel to reward them for weeks of shelling civilian targets in Palestine?
Wait. That’s just now. That’s what the “progressive” president is doing right now.
It doesn’t fucking matter. It is a 2 party system only in show.
There are 2 ways to increase the value of your ballot. The first is to use it to vote for people who aren’t indoctrinated into “the party”. The second is to wipe your ass with it and save on your toilet paper budget.
I certainly hope you don’t think that Republicans aren’t also wholely in support of Israel. They also have absolutely zero sympathy for Palestinians at all.
Trump recognized Jerusalem as the capital, effectively kicking the two state solution in the nuts, was widely condemned by world leaders, and was officialy cited by Hamas as the reason to start a new intifada. Biden didn’t change course on this.
He also officially recognized the Golan Heights as being part of Israel. Biden didn’t change course on this either.
Then there was that Iranian general he had assassinated. He recently mentioned the Israelis being on board to help assassinate him till they backed out last minute, despite Israeli protestations to the contrary. I assume, because assassinating another country’s generals is a potential casus belli, and even Netenyahu didn’t want to antagonize Iran that openly.
He also announced a peace plan which suggested Israel annex (a further) 30% of the west bank, then helped push through the Abraham accords. In retrospect, it’s likely that the normalisation of relations between Israel and some of its Arab neighbours, was seen as a betrayal by Hamas, and a threat to Iran. Biden didn’t change course on this, and it is rumoured that Israel and Saudi Arabia were about to sign a deal, until Hamas attacked.
and I don’t believe any of those factors are improving without either a collapse or a revolution. There are better wastes of paper found in most bathrooms.
I just drafted my vote for someone else.
Who else can someone vote in a way that doesn’t help a Republican (likely Trump) become the next POTUS?
I don’t personally believe either decision is going to save America from misinformation, extremism and possibly collapse in the long run.
You break the 2 party system that forces you to vote for someone you dislike or someone you dislike more.
(Redacted: Tons of American Presidents have been third party.
Reason: a) Thought Theodore Roosevelt won as bull moose and b) misunderstood when I heard about “Democratic-Republican”, “Federalist”, and “Whig” Presidents.)
The modern delusion that a vote for a GOOD candidate is a wasted vote is horse shit.
Zero American Presidents have been third-party. The only election where a candidate outside the two major parties of the era got a large-ish share of votes was in 1912 when Theodore Roosevelt ran in the Bull Moose party and split the Republican vote. (edit: maybe 1860 too)
Here’s a graphic: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:PartyVotes-Presidents.png
Thanks for the graphic. Doesn’t change my stance, but corrects some misconceptions that I had.
No, it is not. (It is horse shit in the sense of being a terrible situation, but it is not a delusion.)
Here’s a simple explanation of why it’s a wasted vote, especially if the race is close:
Politics in the Animal Kingdom
Yes, that would be great, but it requires changing the voting system. Unfortunately, the people with the power to do it have a strong incentive to block it.
It requires changing the voting system in every state individually.
Why does it matter?
Republicans and Democrats are the same fucking thing.
Remember when Democrats had a supermajority in both the house in the senate and were called upon to codify the right to abortion into the constitution and their answer was “don’t feel like it. Roe v Wade was enough”?
I remember that.
Remember when the sitting Democrat president penned an “aid package” that siphoned 50 BILLION dollars to Israel to reward them for weeks of shelling civilian targets in Palestine?
Wait. That’s just now. That’s what the “progressive” president is doing right now.
It doesn’t fucking matter. It is a 2 party system only in show.
There are 2 ways to increase the value of your ballot. The first is to use it to vote for people who aren’t indoctrinated into “the party”. The second is to wipe your ass with it and save on your toilet paper budget.
I certainly hope you don’t think that Republicans aren’t also wholely in support of Israel. They also have absolutely zero sympathy for Palestinians at all.
Trump recognized Jerusalem as the capital, effectively kicking the two state solution in the nuts, was widely condemned by world leaders, and was officialy cited by Hamas as the reason to start a new intifada. Biden didn’t change course on this.
He also officially recognized the Golan Heights as being part of Israel. Biden didn’t change course on this either.
Then there was that Iranian general he had assassinated. He recently mentioned the Israelis being on board to help assassinate him till they backed out last minute, despite Israeli protestations to the contrary. I assume, because assassinating another country’s generals is a potential casus belli, and even Netenyahu didn’t want to antagonize Iran that openly.
He also announced a peace plan which suggested Israel annex (a further) 30% of the west bank, then helped push through the Abraham accords. In retrospect, it’s likely that the normalisation of relations between Israel and some of its Arab neighbours, was seen as a betrayal by Hamas, and a threat to Iran. Biden didn’t change course on this, and it is rumoured that Israel and Saudi Arabia were about to sign a deal, until Hamas attacked.
You think neither is an option? I do. Sorry, but I’m not helping someone I don’t agree with. Some call it a spine.
Unfortunately you can’t just recuse yourself from society. You’re still impacted by who the president is even if you don’t vote for them.
You’re still using public utilities. Driving on public roads. Interacting with people who went to public schools.
Acting like both choices are the same because they will always eventually do something you don’t like is disingenuous and you know it.
and I don’t believe any of those factors are improving without either a collapse or a revolution. There are better wastes of paper found in most bathrooms.
Preach.
A vote for a Republican or a Democrat is a vote for The Party.
If you vote red OR blue, YOU are the problem.