• BOMBS
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    131 year ago

    Who else can someone vote in a way that doesn’t help a Republican (likely Trump) become the next POTUS?

    • BlinkerFluid
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      1 year ago

      I don’t personally believe either decision is going to save America from misinformation, extremism and possibly collapse in the long run.

    • Melkath
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      1 year ago

      You break the 2 party system that forces you to vote for someone you dislike or someone you dislike more.

      (Redacted: Tons of American Presidents have been third party.

      Reason: a) Thought Theodore Roosevelt won as bull moose and b) misunderstood when I heard about “Democratic-Republican”, “Federalist”, and “Whig” Presidents.)

      The modern delusion that a vote for a GOOD candidate is a wasted vote is horse shit.

      • ono
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        The modern delusion that a vote for a GOOD candidate is a wasted vote is horse shit.

        No, it is not. (It is horse shit in the sense of being a terrible situation, but it is not a delusion.)

        Here’s a simple explanation of why it’s a wasted vote, especially if the race is close:

        Politics in the Animal Kingdom

        You break the 2 party system

        Yes, that would be great, but it requires changing the voting system. Unfortunately, the people with the power to do it have a strong incentive to block it.

        • Baron Von J
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          11 year ago

          It requires changing the voting system in every state individually.

      • @SheeEttin
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        Zero American Presidents have been third-party. The only election where a candidate outside the two major parties of the era got a large-ish share of votes was in 1912 when Theodore Roosevelt ran in the Bull Moose party and split the Republican vote. (edit: maybe 1860 too)

        Here’s a graphic: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:PartyVotes-Presidents.png

        • Melkath
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          Thanks for the graphic. Doesn’t change my stance, but corrects some misconceptions that I had.

    • Melkath
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      Why does it matter?

      Republicans and Democrats are the same fucking thing.

      Remember when Democrats had a supermajority in both the house in the senate and were called upon to codify the right to abortion into the constitution and their answer was “don’t feel like it. Roe v Wade was enough”?

      I remember that.

      Remember when the sitting Democrat president penned an “aid package” that siphoned 50 BILLION dollars to Israel to reward them for weeks of shelling civilian targets in Palestine?

      Wait. That’s just now. That’s what the “progressive” president is doing right now.

      It doesn’t fucking matter. It is a 2 party system only in show.

      There are 2 ways to increase the value of your ballot. The first is to use it to vote for people who aren’t indoctrinated into “the party”. The second is to wipe your ass with it and save on your toilet paper budget.