• @Sanctus
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    3511 months ago

    Tolkien is the best ever, but a lot of his stuff is inspired or ported directly from Catholicism.

    • @[email protected]
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      2211 months ago

      This but also various mythological bits and pieces from England, because Tolkien wanted to create an English mythology akin to the Odyssey, Edda or Niebelungen.

      • @[email protected]
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        111 months ago

        Yeah. I absolutely love LotR. But read the niebelungen and certain poems from the Poetic Edda, not to mention Beowulf, and you see how heavy he was influenced by the stuff. Which is fine of course, everyone is influenced by things before them

    • Doug [he/him]
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      1511 months ago

      Yeah, Martin learned the “cribbed from history” trick from Tolkien

      • @Sanctus
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        1111 months ago

        Its good stuff. We dont know history anyway.

        • @[email protected]
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          311 months ago

          There’s an idea. A fantasy for American audiences using geography from South America. They’ll never know unless you show them a map that includes opposite coasts.

    • @Nouveau_Burnswick
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      1511 months ago

      A lot of that Catholicism stuff is just Christianity with local gods and figures retconed in using saints expansions.

      And that whole Christian thing is just a Mediterraneanised/Latinized Zoroastrianism.

      • @Taniwha420
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        211 months ago

        … And Zoroastrianism is just hyped up druidism. The Persians were part of that Indo-European world.

        • @Nouveau_Burnswick
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          111 months ago

          I don’t know what drugs the Persians were into, but now I’m imagining a priestess ripping a massing bong and saying

          “Okay, what if instead of alllll the trees, it’s just about one tree?.. And the tree is a dude”