Sen. John Fetterman (D-Penn.) called some of his colleagues’ quickness to blame Israel for the hospital blast in Gaza “disturbing” in a statement Wednesday.

“It’s truly disturbing that Members of Congress rushed to blame Israel for the hospital tragedy in Gaza,” Fetterman said in a post on X, formerly Twitter.

  • HubertManne
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    These definately

    The majority of the Palestinian rockets do not have the payload to do so much damage
    IDF Digital Spokesman posted a tweet admitting responsibility for the attack, only to quickly delete it
    
    
    • @kava
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      Hananya Naftali is the name of the spokesman. here’s a link to his twitter

      this was the tweet that made immediately after the hospital event go ahead and look it up, it was widely reported on

      he then posted this after deleting the original

      now go search for a reuters article about the bombing that was live before he posted his original tweet. i couldn’t find one, personally. although to be fair, i didn’t look very hard


      you can read more about palestinian rocket arsenal. it’s not secret classified information

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_rocket_arsenal

      their most common rocket is the Qassam, this is the one they produce themselves

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qassam_rocket

      the biggest payload is 20kg

      we’re talking about a bomb in the 250-500lb range. it just isn’t enough.

      they do have stronger rockets, but they are fewer because they cannot produce them entirely on their own. that’s where iranian rockets come in

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fajr-5

      for example that one they have been known to fire before. it’s an actual rocket from an actual military. not jerry rigged together. that one we’re talking 125kg, so we’re starting to get into the discussion range we’re talking about

      they have a lot more shitty qassam rockets than anything else. this is evident by the amount of damage the average rocket does when it lands in israel - virtually nothing. they have to send like 150 rockets to kill 1 israeli

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        So I was talking about the faked facebook post but instead your talking about a social media influencer and trying to make it sound like he is some israeli official, I will just say its a meaningless point then. Hamas and islamic jihad has been hitting israel with rockets forever and I see damage just like and worse than the hospital. Trying to say israel used a really small bomb rather than it being one of those rockets is ridiculous. That being said I don’t think there is enough proof to say either way. But lets say for some reason a madman knows for sure what really happened and he has me tied up with a gun to my head and will shoot me If I don’t get the answer right to the question of if it was israel that hit that hospital. I would say no. It would be my best chance at living. Now queing folks saying they will shoot me given the hypothetical I put up.

        • @kava
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          He’s part of Israeli government. Netanyahu hired him. He was popular influencer and became government propagandist.

          I didn’t say Israel used small bomb. I’m saying at hospital the damage was from bomb at least 250lb payload. Majority of Hamas rockets are much less. They only have a handful of the big ones that could do the damage at the hospital.

          Show me a Hamas rocket that has killed more than 100 people.

            • @kava
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              https://m.youtube.com/shorts/MvogHimGuWo

              Here is Netanyahu at his wedding congratulating him and making the statement: “he works for me”

              At this point, can you admit I wasn’t telling “straight up lies”? Has providing sources for my claims given me any credibility? Because you accused me of being a liar, I would like to say

              Anyhow…

              Hamas has rockets that are powerful. For example, the Iranian supplied onces that go up to 125kg can do much more damage than the picture you sent. A well placed 125kg bomb can topple a building.

              It’s a question of the average. In the last 20 years, Hamas has killed less than 100 Israeli civilians with rockets. They’ve fired thousands of rockets. Most of them are going to be the Qammas ~20kg ones. People get injured but you have to be unlucky to get killed.

              This is what I mean. If Hamas sends out 9 small rockets (which is the majority of their supply) and then 1 big rocket, the more likely outcome is that one of the small ones fail. Simply because there are many more of them. For the damage we saw at the hospital, it would have to be a big one.

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                oh this is super misleading. Really. Here is a celeb at a wedding of another celeb. They could even be related but that does not make him part of the government. You can technically say its not lying but your initial bullet points are as much lying as israel has done around these things. You used the term IDF digital spokesman because the guy is at a wedding. So every palestinian that has been at a wedding with hamas or islamic jihad or other terrorist groups is fair game because hey they were at a wedding. Funny thing is if anything sends me to the israel side of whos telling the truth its social media folks like yourself.

                • @kava
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                  He works for the Israeli Government. Netanyahu is his direct boss. His job is to produce online content that shows the Israeli government in a positive light.

                  It is not a celeb meeting a celeb at a wedding. When I get home I’ll find my bookmark and send you. I’m not trying to lie or mislead. You are very skeptical of me - which you should be because everybody is full of shit these days

                  But this guy is Israeli government employee. My theory is that he was told to send that at a specific time (he even had a little “too bad so sad we had to kill a few civilians because Hamas” ready to go), but then Israelis realized the world was about to freak out about the hospital so they quickly tried to cover up… but that’s pure speculation without any basis in evidence

                  I just think because he posted it so quick and there was no reuters article.

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                    ok yeah. show me something more definitive on his employment and that will help a lot. It can’t be from a web journal where their reporting all goes one way though. Israeli government website, npt, bbc, ruiters or something.