Shortly before 7 p.m. Tuesday, a volley of rockets lit up the darkened sky over Gaza. Videos analyzed by The Associated Press show one veering off course, breaking up in the air before crashing to the ground.

Seconds later, the videos show a large explosion in the same area – the site of Gaza’s al-Ahli Arab Hospital.

Who is to blame for the fiery explosion has set off intense debate and finger pointing between the Israeli government and Palestinian militants, further escalating tensions in their two week-long war.

  • FuglyDuck
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    38 months ago

    I expect this is the likely answer.

    But here’s the daily dose of skepticism warranted by the sheer amount of misinformation- both intentional propaganda and kneejerk reactionaries:

    That the IDF might not normally use rockets or similar weapons…. Doesn’t mean they don’t have them (from captured stockpiles, for example,)

    If asked, my answer is always going to be prefaced with… the only people who really knows for sure are the guys that launched it; and any one who says with certainty “it was XYZ!” Are probably best given an eyebrow raise.

    Which. Does it really matter who did it, at this point? This attack barely moves the needle on civilian deaths caused by the Israeli bombardment… or Hamas or any other armed group.

    IMO Any one who is not calling for a cease fire, or at least talks… is not on the right side here- and both the IDF and Hamas are on the wrong side.

    • Spzi
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      148 months ago

      Which. Does it really matter who did it, at this point?

      Yes, if alone for the insane amount of times Israel was found guilty in titles posting about this on the internet, and Lemmy.

      Maybe we could say it does not matter now if it did not matter then. But it seemed to matter a lot.

      Apart from that, correcting misinformation for truth is always worth it.

    • @[email protected]
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      108 months ago

      Does it really matter who did it, at this point?

      Yes. The truth should matter.

      Any one who is not calling for a cease fire

      I don’t think a ceasefire is going to happen until something happens to the people who started this war.

      • FuglyDuck
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        -38 months ago

        the truth should matter

        So you’re going to talk about all the other civilians being slaughtered by IDF, right? You get, that’s my point, right? This conflict is killing innocents and it’s both sides killing innocents.

        My point is that “it wasn’t Israeli forces that did this” doesn’t absolve Israeli forces from criticism or condemnation when they’re definitely killing civilians.

        Which, leads to the second contention- that a cease fire won’t do anything…

        what cease fores will do …it’ll stop the creation of more terrorists. Maybe create a road map to peace.

        You have to start somewhere. You can’t just keep killing terrorists until there are no more terrorists; the US discovered that the hard way after 9/11;

        And let’s be honest and truthful; as bad and awful as Hamas is, the oppression imposed created the environment for them to exist. Am enviroment doubled and tripled down by the people presently in control… and a party that intentionally sabotaged the peace to retain and gain power by indirectly supporting … Hamas.

        • @paintbucketholder
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          58 months ago

          what cease fores will do …it’ll stop the creation of more terrorists. Maybe create a road map to peace.

          There have been several ceasefires in place between Hamas and Israel in the last 17 years since Hamas seized power in Gaza, and arguably none of them stopped the creation of new terrorists.

          And let’s be honest and truthful; as bad and awful as Hamas is, the oppression imposed created the environment for them to exist.

          Hamas is a terrorist organization that oppresses and murderes Palestinians. The first thing they did when Israel deoccupied Gaza was to seize power from Fatah, murder Fatah members, and suspend elections.

          They purposefully murdered Israeli civilians when they could have targeted military targets. They purposefully place terrorist installations next to civilian places like hospitals, places of worship, etc. in the Gaza strip.

          There’s a lot of blame on Israel for propping up Hamas in a belief that they would be less violent than Fatah, but there’s also a point where you have to admit that people who decide that they want to commit terrorism have some agency of their own, and that not even terrorist act committed by Hamas can be squarely blamed on Israel.

        • @[email protected]
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          28 months ago

          My point is that “it wasn’t Israeli forces that did this” doesn’t absolve Israeli forces from criticism or condemnation when they’re definitely killing civilians.

          Shit happens in a war. Hamas shouldn’t have started a war.

          As to wanting a ceasefire, ask Hamas to surrender, and then the firing will cease.

        • @assassin_aragorn
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          18 months ago

          My point is that “it wasn’t Israeli forces that did this” doesn’t absolve Israeli forces from criticism or condemnation when they’re definitely killing civilians.

          Of course, I completely agree. But it is noteworthy if the damage is caused by an errant missile, because it underscores a very important point – it isn’t just Israel that’s killing Palestinians. Hamas and affiliated groups are also killing Palestinians without a care. This conflict really needs to be separated from the Palestinian civilians, because the two warring parties are both killing them.