Ultimately, this “generous offer” amounted to turning the West Bank into non-contiguous cantons, crisscrossed by a network of settlements, roads and Israeli areas. Even the supposed “capital” of the Palestinian state would mostly be under Israeli control, with stipulations and conditions that stripped any real sovereignty from any area of the supposed Palestinian “state”. Not even the sky above Palestinian heads would be under their control, nor the water under their feet, as Israel still demanded access to water resources under the West Bank.

  • @iforgotmyinstance
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    101 year ago

    Okay let’s try again with simpler words:

    The Palestinians have nothing. How do you give up nothing?

    Israel is fabricating consent for their genocide.

    • @[email protected]
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      They have land. They have people. Both can be lost if they’re unable to figure out how to prevent Hamas, Islamic Jihad, and their successors from going on kidnapping and murder rampages.

      • @[email protected]
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        61 year ago

        Maybe if Israel stopped stealing their land and houses, bombing them, cutting off their supplies of water, food and medicine and generally wasn’t actively perpetuating a genocide, and also offered them something real, then they would be more amenable to peace talks.

        It’s hard to imagine how the Palestinian people would give Israel any benefit of any doubt at this stage. Their genocidal project has been clear for decades.

        And no, they won’t lose everything. That basically can’t be done. It’s fascist propaganda to imply there’s some complete final solution that can be enacted on a minority group. They’ll just keep oppressing and harming them and create a diaspora. It’s an endless project, not one that can be completed.

        • @[email protected]
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          Would be great. How about Hamas and Islamic Jihad release the people they kidnapped and turn themselves over? It would pretty quickly get rid of Netanyahu’s political support for the use of force.

          • MambabasaOPM
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            51 year ago

            You misunderstand Netanyahu’s calculus here. He wants genocide. It HAS ALWAYS BEEN genocide from the Nakba. Bombing Gaza is a poor way of rescuing hostages, unless you plan to kill the hostages.

            • @[email protected]
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              It’s meant to impose a sufficiently large cost on Hamas and Islamic Jihad that they don’t repeat it again. Only way out is for those two groups to surrender, which is what they’d do if they actually cared about Palestinians

              • MambabasaOPM
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                51 year ago

                So genocide is a sufficiently large cost? THERE IS NOTHING THAT CAN JUSTIFY INDISCRIMINATE BOMBINGS AGAINST CIVILIANS. If Hamas does it, it’s bad, but when Israel does it, suddenly it’s a justified response?

          • @masquenox
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            111 months ago

            It would pretty quickly get rid of Netanyahu’s political support for the use of force.

            You mean the “political support for the use of force” that Israel has enjoyed since 1949?

      • @masquenox
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        111 months ago

        They have land.

        Which Israel will be taking anyway.

        They have people.

        Which Israel will be murdering anyway.

        Fuuuck… even just the insane hasbara narratives on here makes it perfectly clear that there can be no peaceful co-existence with Israel ever.