• @ohlaph
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    9811 months ago

    $5 million fine, eh? That’s merely the cost of doing business.

    • @SuckMyWang
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      6011 months ago

      Not really. It’s way way less than that

      • @WhatAmLemmy
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        3411 months ago

        That’s barely a fucking fraction of a rounding error of a sparrow’s fart.

        • eric
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          911 months ago

          Why would anyone ever round a sparrow’s fart?

            • eric
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              611 months ago

              I didn’t realize farts were taxable.

              • Sabata11792
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                611 months ago

                The tax code is a dark and mysterious place built for the rich.

      • @[email protected]
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        611 months ago

        Oh his, I was about to say a five million fine goes against the tenets of Monopoly Man, bless his appointed CEOs on Earth

      • circuscritic
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        11 months ago

        That’s not what that means. It means it’s just an additional, and “normal”, line item on the balance sheet, like toilet paper or the water bill.

        Edit: Reposting as I replied the wrong comment initially.

        • @SuckMyWang
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          It’s not normal. It’s hugely undervalued. Not getting taxed on 32 billion for an extended period of time is completely game changing. It’s like saying having to pay an $8 fine for the stolen company car is just the normal cost of doing business. That being said I see where you’re coming from. They get different rules so it’s probably seen as ok in their eyes to get an $8 car or in this case to steal the car themselves and pay an $8 fine later

          • circuscritic
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            11 months ago

            The phrase “cost of doing business” doesn’t mean “bankrupt” or “righteous penalty”, it means, especially in this context, that it’s an normalized and accepted business expenditure because of our corrupt regulatory system whereby white collar crime is NOT punished by meaningful punitive actions that would create a deterrence. Instead, any punitive measures can simply be accounted for as a “cost of doing business”.

            Let me give you a hyperbolic but extremely simple example:

            CEO: Let’s commit a fraud worth $100m

            VP: But that’s illegal

            CEO: Yes, but the fine would only be around $5m

            CFO: Perfect, I’ll add a $5m expenditure under the “cost of doing business” line item

            VP: Wow, that’s a great $5m expenditure, we’ll net $95m in profit

            CEO: Yep, that’s just the cost of doing business.

            Make sense?

            • @SuckMyWang
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              11 months ago

              I’m aware of what you are saying and I agree but only to a point. I’m saying that even as a “normal” cost of doing business the size of the fine is not normal. To take your example it’s like this:

              CEO: “Lets commit 32 BILLION dollars of fraud.”

              VP: “That’s illegal.”

              CEO: “Yes but the fine would only be around $5m.”

              VP: “Sir, I’m not condoning this but that estimate seems absurdly low for the size of the fraud?

              CEO: “You’re right, the fine should be much much higher. Can we afford to get a $500m fine as a normal operating cost?”

              CFO: “We can. I’ll also talk to my connections in Washington to get the amount lowered and anything else will be gravy. Also, VP you’re fired!”

    • @alvvayson
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      1211 months ago

      It’s just so politicians can say they levied multimillion dollar fines. And the voters are placated.

    • @SoleInvictus
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      911 months ago

      If the average APY is 5%, it’s about a day of interest.

    • @captainlezbian
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      311 months ago

      Yeah we need to set fines to amount attempted to savelikelihood of getting away with itpenalty modifier. They do this math before committing these crimes, the fine needs to actually deter them