Are you afraid theory is gonna make you a totalitarian dictator? Or are the books going to kill people with paper cuts? Words and ideas don’t kill. Individuals make that choice. A wise person would want to know the philosophy that made Stalin and Mao the people they were. Not dismiss it out of ignorance.
Millions. There are communists other than leninists however you know. Who don’t have a record of killing people. Lenin’s Communism was a warped system turned on it’s head. Had Marx been alive. He likely would have been one of Lenin’s biggest critics.
Actual communists tend to be generally anti-state and anti-authoritarin.
Well that or outlaw other parties. And actively put down anyone who disents or has different ideas by military force. Seizing the means of production from the workers who actually use those means. Under the guise of the state and the bureaucrats etc that run it being the ”people”.
Just some of the many affronts Lenin and company committed against communism. But a true Democratic council of equals would absolutely be the least corruptible structure. You’re 100% right.
I guess it’s technically true that the closest real world example of what OP described, anarchosyndicalist Catalonia, became an authoritarian dictatorship… After fascist Spain did a big murder on everyone (I believe there’s a wall with ugly horses and a lightbulb detailing the whole affair).
But other than that, kind of a weird thing to claim.
Capitalism sucks, full stop but all you “Stalin did nothing wrong” types are weird. Being a pedant doesn’t help unless your aim isn’t to actually make a point, but just to be an annoying troll
They don’t, they’re the basement types who just want to be in charge, while they cull anyone who they perceive as enemies. This isn’t woke, it’s authoritarians hating that someone else has power while they lack it.
I’m completely ignoring the framing of a society created by my ideological enemies and instead supporting unionization, and eventually full communism.
You realize that ALWAYS turns into authoritarian dictatorship right?
Right?
Read
Edit: Theory.
I will never read theory, stop trying to make me read theory. Class consciousness is born from VIBES
Those who refuse to to study history are doomed to repeat it
LOLZ! More like: READ HISTORY
How many people did Stalin and Mao kill?
Are you afraid theory is gonna make you a totalitarian dictator? Or are the books going to kill people with paper cuts? Words and ideas don’t kill. Individuals make that choice. A wise person would want to know the philosophy that made Stalin and Mao the people they were. Not dismiss it out of ignorance.
Millions. There are communists other than leninists however you know. Who don’t have a record of killing people. Lenin’s Communism was a warped system turned on it’s head. Had Marx been alive. He likely would have been one of Lenin’s biggest critics.
Actual communists tend to be generally anti-state and anti-authoritarin.
Only if you put a single person at the top. If you understand theory, an elected council is much more difficult to corrupt than a single person is.
Well that or outlaw other parties. And actively put down anyone who disents or has different ideas by military force. Seizing the means of production from the workers who actually use those means. Under the guise of the state and the bureaucrats etc that run it being the ”people”.
Just some of the many affronts Lenin and company committed against communism. But a true Democratic council of equals would absolutely be the least corruptible structure. You’re 100% right.
I guess it’s technically true that the closest real world example of what OP described, anarchosyndicalist Catalonia, became an authoritarian dictatorship… After fascist Spain did a big murder on everyone (I believe there’s a wall with ugly horses and a lightbulb detailing the whole affair).
But other than that, kind of a weird thing to claim.
China, soviet Russia, North Korea …
Capitalism sucks, full stop but all you “Stalin did nothing wrong” types are weird. Being a pedant doesn’t help unless your aim isn’t to actually make a point, but just to be an annoying troll
You know you’re talking to the big communism understander when they deadass accuse you of Stalin apologia in a reply about Anarchist Spain.
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They don’t, they’re the basement types who just want to be in charge, while they cull anyone who they perceive as enemies. This isn’t woke, it’s authoritarians hating that someone else has power while they lack it.