So the whole motto is that ounces add up to pounds, so it’s not 5 ounces making of breaking the lid, but ounces here and there adding up to many pounds.
I’ve done a substantial amount of hiking and climbing, and I definitely learned to appreciate cutting ounces over the years. Like all things though, done folks take it to a crazy extent or even dangerous.
Ultralight started as an exercise in minimalism but most online forums have devolved into gear fetishism instead. Done properly it is a thoughtful exercise designed to help you build and subsequently rely on your skills instead of having a different gadget for every scenario, but a lot of people online will just talk shit about your load out instead.
Like, excuuuuuuse me all to hell for not having $2k to drop on a bunch of cutting edge gear from Big Agnes.
Unfortunately, I feel like most hobby forums devolve into fetishism.
It’s sad, because that level of dedicated nerdism makes for some great information, conversations, and ingenuity.
I don’t know wether to blame our lack of time to actually do whatever it is, or of it’s because all of our brains are rotten from lifetimes of marketing.
Ironically, home server people are obsessed with spending as little money as possible. The TrueNAS hardware compatibility list prides itself on being infrequently updated!
Little of column a, little of column b…combine that with peoples propensity for one-upsmanship and the convenient anonymity of the internet and you have a great recipe for people that are more than happy to gatekeep and talk shit as opposed to putting actual effort into more in-depth analysis and discussion.
Agreed. Don’t know that I ever really followed gear threads online. However I did feel really clever when I made an altoid tin that carried a little baggy of tooth powder (basically dry toothpaste), a spool of floss without case, firestarter, small knife, cut-down toothbrush, and sewing kit. Small, cheap, mostly from the dollar store, and lets me get by for up to a week without much else.
Hot take, but if you’re planning a hike and the difference between 5oz will either make or break you, you probably should not go on that hike.
So the whole motto is that ounces add up to pounds, so it’s not 5 ounces making of breaking the lid, but ounces here and there adding up to many pounds.
I’ve done a substantial amount of hiking and climbing, and I definitely learned to appreciate cutting ounces over the years. Like all things though, done folks take it to a crazy extent or even dangerous.
Ultralight started as an exercise in minimalism but most online forums have devolved into gear fetishism instead. Done properly it is a thoughtful exercise designed to help you build and subsequently rely on your skills instead of having a different gadget for every scenario, but a lot of people online will just talk shit about your load out instead.
Like, excuuuuuuse me all to hell for not having $2k to drop on a bunch of cutting edge gear from Big Agnes.
Unfortunately, I feel like most hobby forums devolve into fetishism.
It’s sad, because that level of dedicated nerdism makes for some great information, conversations, and ingenuity.
I don’t know wether to blame our lack of time to actually do whatever it is, or of it’s because all of our brains are rotten from lifetimes of marketing.
Nah, come on. I use Arch, btw.
Ironically, home server people are obsessed with spending as little money as possible. The TrueNAS hardware compatibility list prides itself on being infrequently updated!
The ugly little stack of older desktops and laptops sitting in the corner of the room running services I don’t need can confirm this.
“No but endeavour is not arch! See, like its completely different yes yes completely different”
Little of column a, little of column b…combine that with peoples propensity for one-upsmanship and the convenient anonymity of the internet and you have a great recipe for people that are more than happy to gatekeep and talk shit as opposed to putting actual effort into more in-depth analysis and discussion.
Because you can’t hike on an internet forum, but you can endlessly perseverate about gear.
Agreed. Don’t know that I ever really followed gear threads online. However I did feel really clever when I made an altoid tin that carried a little baggy of tooth powder (basically dry toothpaste), a spool of floss without case, firestarter, small knife, cut-down toothbrush, and sewing kit. Small, cheap, mostly from the dollar store, and lets me get by for up to a week without much else.
That does sound clever.
I definetly didn’t buy a titanium spoon because titanium is cool
Titanium spoons are for casuals; true ultralight hikers use lithium spoons for maximum lightness (and a delicious spicy flavor!)
It just makes you feel good.