Wael’s family were taking shelter in an area designated as safe by the Israeli army. His wife, son and daughter were murdered by the Israelis

  • dumdum666
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    -151 year ago

    Wael’s family were taking shelter in an area designated as safe by the Israeli army.

    There is no area in the Gaza Strip that is absolutely safe at the moment - this is urban warfare after all. The ugliest form of war you can find.

    I am sure that and nowhere in the article it is framed the way you did it. There are areas that are safer than others, but there are no safe areas.

    • @MrkawfeeOP
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      161 year ago

      Israel designated the south of Gaza a safe area

      “Their home was targeted in the Nuseirat camp in the centre of Gaza, where they had sought refuge after being displaced by the initial bombardment in their neighborhood, following Prime Minister Netanyahu’s call for all civilians to move south.”

      https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/10/25/al-jazeera-condemns-killing-of-journalist-wael-al-dahdouhs-family-in-gaza?taid=6539f96d8c21ce0001e3b110&utm_campaign=trueAnthem%3A+Trending+Content&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=twitter

      • dumdum666
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        -101 year ago

        You are mixing things up: „Safer“ does not mean „safe“. The south of the Gaza Strip is safer than the north -
        not more. And the linked article nowhere claims that the south is „safe“ - it is a warzone after all.

        • @OccamsTeapot
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          31 year ago

          You can’t tell them to move south, bomb the south and then act like you have the moral high ground in any way. Get the fuck out of here

    • @atk007
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      111 year ago

      Israel said the area would be safe, unless they lied and wanted women and children to gather in such an area so they could bomb them easily. I mean, not the first time Israel did something like that, and looking at their war crimes record, pretty much on par.

      • dumdum666
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        -81 year ago

        What exactly is the benefit for Israel to kill civilians and why are they so incredibly bad at it, if they are really doing it on purpose as you suggest?

        • @atk007
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          91 year ago

          Land … The whole premise of Israel was ‘Land without people for people without land.’ But the problem was and always has been that it wasn’t a land without people. There were and still are people living here, and the systemic extinction of these people either by killing them or driving them out is the process that has been going on for decades. That’s it, but you think they are bad at it, but I say they are very good at it, cuz the number of Palestinian deaths say otherwise. Of course, being mostly Europeans, they want Palestinian to move leaving the land behind instead of having to kill them, but they won’t. So every few years Hamas is activated to create a justification to clear out more land. Take a look at the maps from the 1950s till now, and it will become perfectly clear. The Palestinian land is being reduced year after year. That is an undeniable fact.

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            There were and still are people living here, and the systemic extinction of these people either by killing them or driving them out is the process that has been going on for decades.

            If what you say is true, why are the numbers of the Palestinian population rising since decades? Wouldn’t a systematic extinction mean, that that population numbers are falling?

            So every few years Hamas is activated to create a justification to clear out more land.

            So you say that Iran AND Qatar AND Israel have conspired to create this Hamas terrorist attack? I would say this is rather a hot take…

            Take a look at the maps from the 1950s till now, and it will become perfectly clear. The Palestinian land is being reduced year after year. That is an undeniable fact.

            This is completely true - Israel has always annexed land after it won a war. Their settlements on Palestinian lands in the West Bank have to get removed though.

            • @atk007
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              Yeah Iran, Qatar and Israel are at the same level of committing human atrocities, so I wouldn’t get this past them. The existence of Hamas has only been beneficial for Israel, and this isn’t a hot take.

              I would look at the end result. How great is it for Israel that Hamas does some shit and gathers some justification for Israel for more cleaning out Palestinian population and annexing more land, not that Israel needs any justification to do that, but it provides a good cover for naive western audiences.

    • @gaylord_fartmaster
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      91 year ago

      If that area isn’t supposed to be safe, then the only alternative is that Israel told Palestinians to move there so they could bomb them all more efficiently.

      • dumdum666
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        -121 year ago

        What exactly is the benefit for Israel to kill civilians and why are they so incredibly bad at it, if they are really doing it on purpose as you suggest?

        • @gaylord_fartmaster
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          51 year ago

          The benefit is they can continue annexing their land like they’ve been doing for decades, obviously. Are you suggesting they can’t possibly be intentionally killing civilians unless they set up Auschwitz 2.0 and load them into trains or something?