• Saganastic
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    71 year ago

    I mean, it is true though. It’s difficult to attribute any individual storm to climate change. A statistically significant rise in the number and intensity of storms though would be a strong indicator. Does anyone know if there’s a website or scientific journal currently tracking this?

    • @[email protected]
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      41 year ago

      That’s really my point though. It is literally true, and we, as scientists, feel a moral obligation to point that out. Journalists similarly feel a moral obligation to find a scientist that will give them a quote they can pull to say exactly that.

      And we are tracking things all over the board in terms of storms and intensities and such, but even those articles come with caveats about how we are tracking more storms and fires now and so on. All of that is, again, literally true.

      However, the average reader of USA Today isn’t thinking like that. A scientist looking at the data is thinking “Holy crap we are fucked.” They think “I’m sure if it was important scientists and politicians would be saying “Holy crap, we’re fucked!” We are being done in by a crisis of caveats.

      And just for the record, I do think we’re fucked. Like, it’s not going to get fixed. To be perfectly honest, my level of investment in the survival of humanity as we know it has decreased to the point of not caring all that much, and I suspect we’re going to see an extinction event that will wipe out a huge number of species. We know how this movie is going to end, and the idea that we can change it is an illusion because that’s just not how people work at the end of the day.

    • Deceptichum
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      31 year ago

      So just blanket attribute them to it.

      The media exaggerates and makes shit up all the time, at least this would be beneficial.

      • Saganastic
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        I disagree with this. Don’t give deniers any more ammunition than they already have. There’s enough verifiable data on the topic that we don’t need to shoot ourselves in the foot by resorting to sloppy science.

        That said, I would love to see every news story end with: “In recent years there’s been a statically significant increase in severe weather due to climate change.”

        • Deceptichum
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          21 year ago

          You’re worried the people who already ignore all the evidence and believe it’s all lies will, what exactly?

          • Saganastic
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            01 year ago

            People like that point at any article with weak data as validation that climate change has no basis. It’s better to not give them that opportunity.

            • Deceptichum
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              21 year ago

              They don’t need that opportunity because they’ll just make shit up.

                • Deceptichum
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                  11 year ago

                  Facts clearly don’t work.

                  We’ve known them for over a century and done nothing.

                  I’d rather see the media using its huge influence over the population to be at least be making them worried about climate change instead of ignoring it.

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                    Again, there are many people that use the “doom and gloom” climate change prophecies that haven’t come true yet as an excuse to ignore the problem entirely. Better to be factual and correct.

        • @neanderthal
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          21 year ago

          There was an article posted the other day about that. I agree. Various media outlets needs to start stepping up and getting loud about it.

          I love that idea. On TV weather, talk about it constantly.