• Kalash
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    -2111 months ago

    Almost like Hamas is systematically using civilians as human shields.

    • @BradleyUffner
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      4311 months ago

      The good guys aren’t supposed to shoot the hostages.

      • Kalash
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        -3011 months ago

        Right, Israel should just roll over an accept all death and destructing of their own people just because the Hamas doesn’t give a fuck about theirs?

        • @BradleyUffner
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          1711 months ago

          They can defend themselves WITHOUT SHOOTING THE HOSTAGES!

          • @DoomBot5
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            -511 months ago

            Please explain how? Sit there and eat rockets all day?

            • @BradleyUffner
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              The same way the police deal with people that have taken hostages. Or the same way the US military deals with them. BY NOT KILLING THE HOSTAGES.

              You are putting an awful lot of effort into purposefully not understanding this concept.

              • @DoomBot5
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                -511 months ago

                The US doesn’t negotiate with terrorists as a policy. the police isn’t dealing with people hell bent on murdering them, their family, and all their friends.

                The fact that you think your scenarios are related shows you don’t understand the situation.

                • @dustyData
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                  411 months ago

                  The US negotiates with terrorists every single day. That’s just a political slogan. In reality you do want to talk with everyone involved, even if you’re planning on betraying and murdering them at the end anyway. The US has negotiated with almost every single terrorist organization in existence worldwide. That’s like, the main job of the CIA when they’re not too busy smuggling drugs.

                • @BradleyUffner
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                  311 months ago

                  They don’t negotiate with terrorists, but they also don’t purposefully shoot their hostages either, now do they?

            • @dustyData
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              211 months ago

              It’s called counter insurgency. But it involves thinking about the civilian population as real human beings with rights.

              • @DoomBot5
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                311 months ago

                Okay, so explain how then.

                • @[email protected]
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                  -111 months ago

                  Lmao they should just stop colonising? And end apartheid? Like how hard is it to understand? A colonised people will keep fighting until they are dead.

                • wanderingmagus
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                  -211 months ago

                  Use OPIR, COMINT, HUMINT, OSINT, GEOINT and drone imagery alongside sleeper cell infiltrators alongside PRISM and the NSA database to locate the targets, then use one of the following:

                  • Aboveground: Sniper from two miles out, on a hill somewhere.
                  • Aboveground in a bunker: Precision guided bunker-buster munition with a shaped charge to open the door, and then secondary charge to kill the target and minimize casualties
                  • Belowground: noxious gas to fill the tunnels and drive out anyone without a mask, armed unmanned ground vehicles to scout ahead with a swarm of drones. SEAL follows behind. Flashbang the room, use night vision to locate and then neutralize hostiles while attempting to minimize loss of hostages and noncombatants.
                  • @DoomBot5
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                    111 months ago

                    Which video game did you get that all out of?

        • ???
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          -111 months ago

          No one said that. Why do you make it sound like this is the only other option?

    • @[email protected]
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      1711 months ago

      Even given that, Israel still has choices about what it does and responsibility for it. Israel is not forced to mass-murder civilians.

      • @DoomBot5
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        -411 months ago

        Hamas is making sure there aren’t any other options.

        • @Dkarma
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          -211 months ago

          Yeah the underdog always calls the shots…lmfao what a joke

          • @DoomBot5
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            011 months ago

            That’s not how real life works.

    • @Bonesince1997
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      411 months ago

      The last dude was found hiding in a refugee camp. His decision to hide there doomed others in the camp. They do it on purpose because one side will sometimes play by the rules. Terrorists exploit that.

      • Kalash
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        11 months ago

        Yep, they have been doing this for decades.

        It’s almost a win-win for them. Either they avoid getting bombed … or they don’t but they get to play the victim card and point the finger at Israel. That’s literally their playbook.

        • @BradleyUffner
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          611 months ago

          If only there were some way to go into the refuge camp and kill ONLY THE TERRORIST, instead of firing missiles blindly into the camp.

          • BaldProphet
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            411 months ago

            If only the other refugees would rise against Hamas and stop supporting them.

              • BaldProphet
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                111 months ago

                Hamas exists. A Palestinian resistance to Hamas could exist as well (and would likely be supported by Israel and the United States). Yet, there does not seem to be any Palestinian resistance to their violent and corrupt Hamas overlords.

                • Annoyed_🦀
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                  311 months ago

                  Their choice is either Hamas, a violent and corrupt warlord, or Fatah, a submissive and corrupt government. Both choice will result in them getting oppressed and drive out from their land.

                  That’s not a good yardstick to measure this.

                  • BaldProphet
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                    I mean… They could form a new, democratic government? This isn’t rocket science. Why are the only choices that current, dysfunctional regimes? They wouldn’t be the first country in living memory to create a new democracy, if they chose to attempt it.

              • BaldProphet
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                511 months ago

                If I recall correctly, Israelis were all out in the streets protesting their government just a month or so ago.

                • @[email protected]
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                  111 months ago

                  Yes indeed but they were not to remove the settlements let’s be honest! Despite my Muslim background I have nothing against Israel just FYI, this my-side your-side shit is moronic. I have met and partied hard with many Israelis and, if I may say so, the extremism on their side is not part of the common narrative at all. Because most Israelis are lovely modern people, they assume the entire country is like them and genuinely wonder why they are hated so much. Part of me wishes Israel (the secular part) would flat out withdraw from settlements to sweep a leg (one of many) out from under the Muslim extremists and expose the Arabs for the hypocrites that they are. But they never will because Israel has designs of its own my brother, and that is the truth of the matter as much as it may sting.

    • ???
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      111 months ago

      Proximity shielding the wya Israel uses itet is pure BS. Read about it. Almost every use of it is questionable and made to kill civilians.