• @[email protected]
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    -471 year ago

    If you need it spelled out for you, I’ll help: life was never easy, but it never stopped people from stepping up to it and taking the responsibility for it. That includes having kids. Being “afraid of having kids” because of some external issue seems like a bad excuse from people who just don’t want to accept the responsibility.

    • @[email protected]
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      381 year ago

      Saying it’s our responsibility to have kids it’s implying it’s our responsibility to endlessly expand and multiply. That is the domain of viruses and creatures that exceed the environmental carrying capacity of their species

      • @[email protected]
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        -261 year ago

        it’s our responsibility to endlessly expand and multiply.

        Not necessarily. We can still encourage people to have kids but keep it close to replacement rate (2.3 kids per woman)

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          161 year ago

          But isn’t it the fact that we have so many people coming into the middle class with middle class resource usage that causes planetary resource overruse? Either we need less people in the middle class, or 7 billion ppl have got to go back to pre industrial levels of consumption

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            -181 year ago

            Either we need less people in the middle class, or 7 billion ppl have got to go back to pre industrial levels of consumption

            No, we need less people living with the north american standard of consumption. This is not the same as “middle class”.

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      51 year ago

      What a fucking stupid argument. How is it anyone’s “responsibility” to have a kid? Please spell it out.

      Here’s my argument: it sounds hard and I don’t wanna. Explain to me how I’m irresponsible. JFC 😂

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          Use the hundreds of thousands I would have otherwise spent on kids to live my best life until I die? duh

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            Understand that we are talking here about a scenario where the global fertility rate drops significantly (less than one child per woman), like what is happening now in South Korea, Spain, Italy, ok?

            Given that scenario and the economic collapse that would be coming with it, what would you be spending on, exactly?

            Has it occurred to you that all that money that you have been saving and putting in some pension fund will likely not be there if there are no younger people to keep the economy going?

            Also: what is stopping you from “living your best life” now that you are young?

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            Use the hundreds of thousands I would have otherwise spent on kids

            Yeah, that is not a thing in Germany. Decent public schools, decent health care system, government gives you 250 euro per kid per month, no car dependency, which means that kids are a lot more independent a lot earlier in life… having kids does not cost that much.